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In article <10eqj0l$3dsen$5@dont-email.me>, bax02
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>
> Mitchell Holman wrote in news:XnsB39261B75D3A0629555@
> 185.151.15.160:
>
> > Elendil wrote in
> > news:mnbof6F29qvU1@mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> Attila wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 18:07:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>> <10eo0tj$2obgp$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Attila wrote in
> >>>> news:896ugk5gbs4qj6us0qvat83galoofcpj7u@4ax.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>> <10emk95$2c2e1$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Attila wrote in
> >>>>>> news:obksgkhkqcfdr09k5c3enddh3un0nulur4@4ax.com:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:54:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 07:57:31 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message-id <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay him the government 20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any ⤽cash distributions.⤝
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government can compel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government will be awarded 20 percent ownership
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the company, likely making it the single largest
> >>>> shareholder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AKA Socialism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of NY. As long as the city survives the experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the socialist nature is like a pH measure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inducement to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures how are they bad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free stuff socialism promises? Will you work for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to
> >>>> help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their business with them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on everybody and everybody consumes free resources.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
> >>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services that should be available to everyone becoming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good if you are talking about a computer run economy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mix in people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some pigs are more equal than others."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneath the system?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the pure food and drug laws are followed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> merit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> merit? And what does that have to do with the subject?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quit being obtuse.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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