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   > >>>>>>>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> People fall. They can get back up again in other countries.   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Here they just die.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> They can get up here too.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> It's a matter of chance if they get sick. People go bankrupt   
   > >>>>>>>> from medical costs all the time in America. We're unique like   
   > >>>>>>>> that.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Doubtful.  Not all countries have socialized medicine.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that   
   > >>>>>> does not provide universal health care to its citizens.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I am not going to argue the point.  I consider the subject a   
   > >>>>> personal responsibility.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Then don't ever claim that the US is a "Chistian Nation".   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I have never made such a claim and I never will.   The   
   > >>> Treaty of Tripoli settled that.   
   > >>>   
   > >>  From a prominent retired surgeon:   
   > >>   
   > >> Every American has the right to keep their body healthy without going   
   > >> broke. Every American should have access to public health services in   
   > >> their own communities and quality local hospitals.   
   > >>   
   > >> The obscenely high cost of health care in America is caused by the   
   > >> insatiable greed of corporate middlemen who get rich by standing in   
   > >> between you and the healthcare your doctors say you need and using   
   > >> mountains of costly and unnecessary paperwork to hide the fact that   
   > >> they are strip-mining the Medicare trust fund and defrauding the   
   > >> American people.   
   > >>   
   > >> By finally driving the greed and waste out of the system, we can save   
   > >> enough to not just lower costs for everyone, but to add much-needed   
   > >> coverage for dental, hearing and vision.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   Bravo. Exactly right.   
   > >   
   > >   America has the most expensive   
   > > health care system in the world   
   > > solely because insurance companies   
   > > stand in between the patients and   
   > > doctors extracting huge profits   
   > > for themselves. No country has ever   
   > > ditched their public health system   
   > > in favor of the "pay up or die"   
   > > American system.   
   > >   
   > AND, conservaturds claim our health system is best in the world while   
   > people live longer in other countries and we are near the bottom in   
   > infant and maternal mortality.  (to conservaturds:  infant & maternal   
   > mortality means more of our mothers and infants die than in other   
   > countries)   
      
   "conservaturd"...You lose all credibility when you post   
   childish shit like that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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