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noemail@aol.com says...
>
> Webbster wrote in news:10eqj0l$3dsen$5
> @dont-email.me:
>
> > Mitchell Holman wrote in news:XnsB39261B75D3A0629555@
> > 185.151.15.160:
> >
> >> Elendil wrote in
> >> news:mnbof6F29qvU1@mid.individual.net:
> >>
> >>> Attila wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 18:07:48 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>> <10eo0tj$2obgp$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Attila wrote in
> >>>>> news:896ugk5gbs4qj6us0qvat83galoofcpj7u@4ax.com:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>> <10emk95$2c2e1$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Attila wrote in
> >>>>>>> news:obksgkhkqcfdr09k5c3enddh3un0nulur4@4ax.com:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:54:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 07:57:31 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message-id <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power
> plants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay him the government 20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any ⤽cash distributions.⤝
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government can compel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which
> point
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government will be awarded 20 percent ownership
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the company, likely making it the single largest
> >>>>> shareholder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AKA Socialism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew
> mayor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of NY. As long as the city survives the experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the socialist nature is like a pH measure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inducement to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures how are they bad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free stuff socialism promises? Will you work for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to
> >>>>> help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their business with them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on everybody and everybody consumes free resources.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
> >>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services that should be available to everyone becoming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his ability, to each according to his need" Which
> sounds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good if you are talking about a computer run economy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mix in people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some pigs are more equal than others."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneath the system?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the pure food and drug laws are followed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's
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