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   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> merit? And what does that have to do with the subject?   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quit being obtuse.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to give him what he needs or thinks he needs.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> People fall. They can get back up again in other   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>> countries. Here they just die.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>> They can get up here too.   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>>> It's a matter of chance if they get sick. People go   
   >> >>>>>>>>> bankrupt from medical costs all the time in America. We're   
   >> >>>>>>>>> unique like that.   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>> Doubtful.  Not all countries have socialized medicine.   
   >> >>>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>> The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation   
   >> >>>>>>> that does not provide universal health care to its citizens.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> I am not going to argue the point.  I consider the subject a   
   >> >>>>>> personal responsibility.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> Then don't ever claim that the US is a "Chistian Nation".   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> I have never made such a claim and I never will.   The   
   >> >>>> Treaty of Tripoli settled that.   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>  From a prominent retired surgeon:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Every American has the right to keep their body healthy without   
   >> >>> going broke. Every American should have access to public health   
   >> >>> services in their own communities and quality local hospitals.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> The obscenely high cost of health care in America is caused by   
   >> >>> the insatiable greed of corporate middlemen who get rich by   
   >> >>> standing in between you and the healthcare your doctors say you   
   >> >>> need and using mountains of costly and unnecessary paperwork to   
   >> >>> hide the fact that they are strip-mining the Medicare trust fund   
   >> >>> and defrauding the American people.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> By finally driving the greed and waste out of the system, we can   
   >> >>> save enough to not just lower costs for everyone, but to add   
   >> >>> much-needed coverage for dental, hearing and vision.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   Bravo. Exactly right.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   America has the most expensive   
   >> >> health care system in the world   
   >> >> solely because insurance companies   
   >> >> stand in between the patients and   
   >> >> doctors extracting huge profits   
   >> >> for themselves. No country has ever   
   >> >> ditched their public health system   
   >> >> in favor of the "pay up or die"   
   >> >> American system.   
   >> >>   
   >> > AND, conservaturds claim our health system is best in the world   
   >> > while people live longer in other countries and we are near the   
   >> > bottom in infant and maternal mortality.  (to conservaturds:   
   >> > infant & maternal mortality means more of our mothers and infants   
   >> > die than in other countries)   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Americans subsidize health care for Israelis.   
   >>   
   >> Americans subsidize health care for Argentiinians.   
   >>   
   >> But Americans subsidizing health care for Americans?   
   >   
   > And you believe that money actually goes for that?   
      
      
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