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In article <10eo0tj$2obgp$4@dont-email.me>, bax02
_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>
> Attila wrote in
> news:896ugk5gbs4qj6us0qvat83galoofcpj7u@4ax.com:
>
> > On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 05:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> > in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <10emk95$2c2e1$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >
> >>Attila wrote in
> >>news:obksgkhkqcfdr09k5c3enddh3un0nulur4@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 09:54:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Attila wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 07:57:31 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 16:39:21 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:27:29 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 06:58:38 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2025 18:17:06 -0600, The World of Is!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message-id <10ec0h7$3dg3f$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump wants to build nuclear power plants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has chosen Westinghouse to build them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He will pay Westinghouse $80 billion for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In return he has compelled Westinghouse to pay
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him the government 20
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percent of any ?cash distributions.?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Between now and the end of January 2029, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government can compel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westinghouse to go public via an IPO, at which point the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government will be awarded 20 percent ownership of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company, likely making it the single largest
> shareholder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is literally seizing the means of production - AKA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism takes 100% of everything in sight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism in action will be shown under the mew mayor of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NY. As long as the city survives the experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an alarmist. Socialism is not communism and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasing the socialist nature is like a pH measure not
> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inducement to 100% socialism. Libraries are socialist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> structures how are they bad?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libraries do not produce a product for sale.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where is the money coming from to support all of the free
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff socialism promises? Will you work for nothing to
> help
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> produce any of it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you say "Tax the rich" be aware the "rich" are the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one's who can easiest afford to simply pick up and move out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the tax jurisdiction. Frequently taking their business
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that's the point. 100% socialism means 100% tax on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> everybody and everybody consumes free resources. There is
> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 100% tax which means there is a long ways to go to pure
> >>>>>>>>>>>> socialism and you are getting up in the air about services
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that should be available to everyone becoming available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What you describe is Communism. "From each according to his
> >>>>>>>>>>> ability, to each according to his need" Which sounds good
> >>>>>>>>>>> if you are talking about a computer run economy. Mix in
> >>>>>>>>>>> people and the Orwell effect quickly emerges. "Some pigs
> >>>>>>>>>>> are more equal than others."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> See the USSR for a textbook example.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you claim healthcare should not be available to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone? Do you consider some people to be dogs and beneath
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the system?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved in the healthcare
> >>>>>>>>>>> system at all beyond insuring it is not full of quacks and
> >>>>>>>>>>> the pure food and drug laws are followed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Because wealth is not a reliable indication of a person's
> >>>>>>>>>> merit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why should the government be involved with a person's merit?
> >>>>>>>>> And what does that have to do with the subject?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Quit being obtuse.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Being poor is a death sentence under your policies.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There comes a point at which the individual must take
> >>>>>>> responsibility for himself and not expect someone else to
> >>>>>>> give him what he needs or thinks he needs.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> People fall. They can get back up again in other countries. Here
> >>>>>> they just die.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They can get up here too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>It's a matter of chance if they get sick. People go bankrupt from
> >>>>medical costs all the time in America. We're unique like that.
> >>>
> >>> Doubtful. Not all countries have socialized medicine.
> >>>
> >>
> >>The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does
> >>not provide universal health care to its citizens.
> >
> > I am not going to argue the point. I consider the subject a
> > personal responsibility.
> >
>
> Then don't ever claim that the US is a "Chistian Nation".
He can if he wants and you will just have to put up with
it.
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