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From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
Attila wrote in
news:4babhkpss4k8o6mrgh953i4iba3v784245@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:08:33 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <10f3p4g$1uaku$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>Attila wrote in
>>news:0qo9hktprgrjetf9j3hhsl6dmnq567cgu8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:22:52 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <10f2mqb$1ljsg$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Attila wrote in
>>>>news:6dm8hkpapu62f49elsgbjap77atdfuihb4@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 05:11:49 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <10f14ul$17mh3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Attila wrote in
>>>>>>news:ebk7hkhd9g7o4n52hibcgtq8s1htetr82t@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:12:10 -0600, Elendil
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:55:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <10evtba$t3ti$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:e816hkdgguq4e8nr14mkmnfqe1k9jnpvv3@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:11:22 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <10eughq$gjke$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> slothe wrote in news:10etfju$2iof$3
>>>>>>>>>>>> @nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Nov 2025, Elendil posted
some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:mndto4Fdc6dU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 04:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
message-
>>id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10errb3$3p17t$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ucd2hk9rvqd2p3quh88me2uqmqok91iaa8@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 17:25:13 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
>>message-
>>>>id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10eqipp$3dsen$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your opinion is obviously that if one is not rich
>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should just die.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not everyone who pays their debts is rich.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that debt is more than they will make in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifetime?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no guarantees in life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bureaucracy is the death of any achievement." - Albert
>>>>Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to open your eyes to find them I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a little bit of luck in life. Most people find
their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth through hard work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most wealthy people inherited a large sum and could build on
>>it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that original large sum came from less than honest
>>>>>>>>>>>> activities,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That would depend on your definition of wealthy and how
>>>>>>>>>>> wealthy you need to be in order to pay your bills. Including
>>>>>>>>>>> medical.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you really have a problem understanding the term "wealthy
>>>>>>>>>> people"?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. To someone living on the street a hundred thousand
>>>>>>>>> dollars would probably make them wealthy. To Musk a hundred
>>>>>>>>> million would be pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is much like "fair share", which I am still waiting for
>>>>>>>>> someone to define. Whenever I ask for a definition I am
>>>>>>>>> ignored.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can't you use common sense? The signs are all over that people
>>think
>>>>>>>>their fair share is housing and food on the table for a job in
>>>>today's
>>>>>>>>America.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are saying a 'fair share' is free housing and free food
>>>>>>> for everyone? Who is going to pay for this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As AI and robots take over, who's going to have a job to earn
money?
>>>>>
>>>>> The same was said about the horse and wagon. Every advance
>>>>> puts someone out of work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Buggy whips anyone? How about cotton pickers?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do tell us about those new upccoming jobs. Horse and wagons were
>>>>replaced by automobiles - which brought a lot of jobs. Do tell us
what
>>>>jobs come next for those displayed by AI and robots.
>>>
>>> I have no idea just as no one expected autos to replace
>>> horses when they were a rich man's plaything. I do know it
>>> is going to take training to get any of them.
>>>
>>> I understand there is a national shortage of trained trades
>>> and crafts people. Plumbers, electricians, AC specialists,
>>> carpenters and the like. And an excellent income can be had
>>> by someone with the proper training. They will not go to
>>> anyone who rejects education and looks down on anyone who
>>> tries to get one.
>>>
>>> I also do know job destruction has never worked as a reason
>>> to not progress into something new.
>>>
>>
>>A lot of the Trades will go away too.
>
> And a lot will not.
>
And there will be more applicants than openings. In EVERY senario you
find massive numbers of unemployed and unemployables. What are you going
to do - let them starve? They will turn to crime before that.
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