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   horchata12839@gmail.com says...   
   >   
   > Skeeter wrote:   
   > > In article <10f4umv$28bjj$3@dont-email.me>, bax02   
   > > _spamblock@baxcode.com says...   
   > >>   
   > >> Attila  wrote in   
   > >> news:4babhkpss4k8o6mrgh953i4iba3v784245@4ax.com:   
   > >>   
   > >>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:08:33 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>> <10f3p4g$1uaku$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>> news:0qo9hktprgrjetf9j3hhsl6dmnq567cgu8@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:22:52 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>> <10f2mqb$1ljsg$3@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>>> news:6dm8hkpapu62f49elsgbjap77atdfuihb4@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 05:11:49 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>>>> <10f14ul$17mh3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>>>>> news:ebk7hkhd9g7o4n52hibcgtq8s1htetr82t@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:12:10 -0600, Elendil   
   > >>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:55:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> <10evtba$t3ti$2@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> news:e816hkdgguq4e8nr14mkmnfqe1k9jnpvv3@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:11:22 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <10eughq$gjke$4@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slothe  wrote in news:10etfju$2iof$3   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Nov 2025, Elendil  posted   
   > >> some   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:mndto4Fdc6dU1@mid.individual.net:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 04:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with   
   > >> message-   
   > >>>> id   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10errb3$3p17t$4@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila  wrote in   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ucd2hk9rvqd2p3quh88me2uqmqok91iaa8@4ax.com:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 17:25:13 -0000 (UTC), Webbster   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with   
   > >>>> message-   
   > >>>>>> id   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10eqipp$3dsen$4@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your opinion is obviously that if one is not rich   
   > >>>> they   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should just die.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not everyone who pays their debts is rich.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that debt is more than they will make in their   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifetime?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no guarantees in life.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bureaucracy is the death of any achievement." - Albert   
   > >>>>>> Einstein   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to open your eyes to find them I guess.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a little bit of luck in life.  Most people find   
   > >> their   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth through hard work.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most wealthy people inherited a large sum and could build on   
   > >>>> it.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that original large sum came from less than honest   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> activities,   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That would depend on your definition of wealthy and how   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wealthy you need to be in order to pay your bills. Including   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> medical.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really have a problem understanding the term "wealthy   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> people"?!   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  To someone living on the street a hundred thousand   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> dollars would probably make them wealthy.  To Musk a hundred   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> million would be pocket change.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> That is much like "fair share", which I am still waiting for   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> someone to define.  Whenever I ask for a definition I am   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> ignored.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Can't you use common sense? The signs are all over that people   
   > >>>> think   
   > >>>>>>>>>> their fair share is housing and food on the table for a job in   
   > >>>>>> today's   
   > >>>>>>>>>> America.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> You are saying a 'fair share'  is free housing and free food   
   > >>>>>>>>> for everyone?  Who is going to pay for this?   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> As AI and robots take over, who's going to have a job to earn   
   > >> money?   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> The same was said about the horse and wagon. Every advance   
   > >>>>>>> puts someone out of work.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Buggy whips anyone?  How about cotton pickers?   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Do tell us about those new upccoming jobs.  Horse and wagons were   
   > >>>>>> replaced by automobiles - which brought a lot of jobs. Do tell us   
   > >> what   
   > >>>>>> jobs come next for those displayed by AI and robots.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I have no idea just as no one expected autos to replace   
   > >>>>> horses when they were a rich man's plaything.  I do know it   
   > >>>>> is going to take training to get any of them.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I understand there is a national shortage of trained trades   
   > >>>>> and crafts people.  Plumbers, electricians, AC specialists,   
   > >>>>> carpenters and the like.  And an excellent income can be had   
   > >>>>> by someone with the proper training.  They will not go to   
   > >>>>> anyone who rejects education and looks down on anyone who   
   > >>>>> tries to get one.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I also do know job destruction has never worked as a reason   
   > >>>>> to not progress into something new.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> A lot of the Trades will go away too.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> And a lot will not.   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >> And there will be more applicants than openings.  In EVERY senario you   
   > >> find massive numbers of unemployed and unemployables. What are you going   
   > >> to do - let them starve?  They will turn to crime before that.   
   > >   
   > > Why didn't you crybaby liberals complain about airline   
      
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