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Attila wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 20:45:42 -0600, Elendil
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> wrote:
>
>> Attila wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 15:49:52 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <10f4umv$28bjj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>> news:4babhkpss4k8o6mrgh953i4iba3v784245@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:08:33 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <10f3p4g$1uaku$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>> news:0qo9hktprgrjetf9j3hhsl6dmnq567cgu8@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:22:52 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <10f2mqb$1ljsg$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:6dm8hkpapu62f49elsgbjap77atdfuihb4@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 05:11:49 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <10f14ul$17mh3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:ebk7hkhd9g7o4n52hibcgtq8s1htetr82t@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:12:10 -0600, Elendil
>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:55:55 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10evtba$t3ti$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e816hkdgguq4e8nr14mkmnfqe1k9jnpvv3@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:11:22 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10eughq$gjke$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slothe wrote in news:10etfju$2iof$3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Nov 2025, Elendil posted
>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:mndto4Fdc6dU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 04:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
>>>> message-
>>>>>> id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10errb3$3p17t$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ucd2hk9rvqd2p3quh88me2uqmqok91iaa8@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 17:25:13 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with
>>>>>> message-
>>>>>>>> id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <10eqipp$3dsen$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your opinion is obviously that if one is not rich
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should just die.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not everyone who pays their debts is rich.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that debt is more than they will make in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifetime?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no guarantees in life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bureaucracy is the death of any achievement." - Albert
>>>>>>>> Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to open your eyes to find them I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a little bit of luck in life. Most people find
>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth through hard work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most wealthy people inherited a large sum and could build on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that original large sum came from less than honest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activities,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would depend on your definition of wealthy and how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealthy you need to be in order to pay your bills. Including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> medical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really have a problem understanding the term "wealthy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people"?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. To someone living on the street a hundred thousand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollars would probably make them wealthy. To Musk a hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>>> million would be pocket change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is much like "fair share", which I am still waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone to define. Whenever I ask for a definition I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignored.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't you use common sense? The signs are all over that people
>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> their fair share is housing and food on the table for a job in
>>>>>>>> today's
>>>>>>>>>>>> America.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are saying a 'fair share' is free housing and free food
>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone? Who is going to pay for this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As AI and robots take over, who's going to have a job to earn
>>>> money?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The same was said about the horse and wagon. Every advance
>>>>>>>>> puts someone out of work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Buggy whips anyone? How about cotton pickers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do tell us about those new upccoming jobs. Horse and wagons were
>>>>>>>> replaced by automobiles - which brought a lot of jobs. Do tell us
>>>> what
>>>>>>>> jobs come next for those displayed by AI and robots.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea just as no one expected autos to replace
>>>>>>> horses when they were a rich man's plaything. I do know it
>>>>>>> is going to take training to get any of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand there is a national shortage of trained trades
>>>>>>> and crafts people. Plumbers, electricians, AC specialists,
>>>>>>> carpenters and the like. And an excellent income can be had
>>>>>>> by someone with the proper training. They will not go to
>>>>>>> anyone who rejects education and looks down on anyone who
>>>>>>> tries to get one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also do know job destruction has never worked as a reason
>>>>>>> to not progress into something new.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of the Trades will go away too.
>>>>>
>>>>> And a lot will not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And there will be more applicants than openings. In EVERY senario you
>>>> find massive numbers of unemployed and unemployables. What are you going
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