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   Attila to mnp3d9F9qphU1@mid.individual.net   
   Re: tRump socialist (2/2)   
   14 Nov 25 15:07:21   
   
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   >>>>>>> A lot of the Trades will go away too.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And a lot will not.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And there will be more applicants than openings.  In EVERY senario you   
   >>>>> find massive numbers of unemployed and unemployables. What are you going   
   >>>>> to do - let them starve?  They will turn to crime before that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There are always jobs available for those who will take the   
   >>>> training.  At the moment there 10,000 ATC openings for   
   >>>> example.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The government cannot be everything to everyone.  The idea   
   >>>> that "the rich" can be made to pay for everything is   
   >>>> economic nonsense.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I am still waiting for a definition of "fair share".   
   >>>>   
   >>> What about a flat income tax? Maybe 20% for everyone? Then "the rich"   
   >>> would pay their "fair share."   
   >>   
   >> That doesn't take into account the core expense of staying   
   >> alive.  Things like food, shelter, clothing, energy, and in   
   >> today's world transportation.   
   >>   
   >> X% of one person could be the difference between living and   
   >> dying while that same X% of another would not impact their   
   >> lifestyle much less their life.  A flat tax sounds good but   
   >> it would be complex to implement.   
   >>   
   >It's possible to talk about though isn't it?   
      
   You can talk about antigravity.   
      
   > I think that constitutes a   
   >fair share, mainly because it is incredibly more than the billionaires   
   >are paying presently.   
      
   Perhaps they pay a proper amount based upon their   
   contribution to society.   
      
   >   
   >You asked for a definition - that is one for me.   
      
   That isn't a definition.  It is a suggested method for tax   
   collection.  One that will not work without a lot of   
   exemptions, which would not make it very fair.   
      
      
   > It is also a worker   
   >ideal that billionaires would pay 20% income tax because a lot of weight   
   >off of our shoulders.   
      
   Why should someone else work to earn money just to reduce   
   the weight on your shoulders?  If I was offered a job where   
   I would work twice as hard for almost no increase in income   
   I would simply stay where I am.  Why should my goal be to   
   provide what a worker would consider ideal?  I much prefer   
   what I would consider ideal.   
      
      
   Why should I start a company, work 18 hours a day seven days   
   a week for years before making it highly successful only to   
   have most of the profits eaten up by taxes?   
      
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   legally or illegally. Those that are   
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   Be very afraid.  It does not matter   
   how long you have been here.  It does   
   not matter why you are here. It does not   
   matter what you have done legally while you   
   were here. It does not matter what any   
   relative may have done while you were here.   
   It only matters that you are here illegally.   
   It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer   
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   Be prepared.   
      
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   and abhorrent.   
   Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.   
      
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   A Constitional Amendment establishing   
   the Freedom of Choice.   
      
   The elimination of public expression,   
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