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   From: thomandpam@yahoo.com.au   
      
   On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:19:29 GMT, "Stan de SD"   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Thom"  wrote in message   
   >news:40fce1d9.5810839@news.melbpc.org.au...   
   >> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:27:57 GMT, "Stan de SD"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >"Orval Fairbairn"  wrote in message   
   >>   
   >>news:orfairbairn_spam_sucks-279E5A.22130810072004@news01.east.earthlink.net   
   >.   
   >> >..   
   >> >> In article <40ee7b51.21427552@news.melbpc.org.au>,   
   >> >>  thomandpam@yahoo.com.au (Thom) wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > Socialism is the opposite of oppression and empowers the individual   
   >> >> > against corporations.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Ah, but it empowers government, which has the police power, to oppress   
   >> >> the individual.   
   >> >   
   >> >And socialists covet government control because they think they can   
   >better   
   >> >determine what is best for everyone else...   
   >>   
   >> vs the present facsist government   
   >   
   >The fact that you think the present government is fascistic reveals your   
   >immaturity and cluelessness.   
      
   I'm sorry but if you read what Facsism is you would see that the Bush   
   white house is just that.  In 1929 Benito Mussolini wrote a book on   
   his new creation and defined it as the blending of government and   
   corporate interests and that's exactly what we have now.  Hell, we   
   even have a Haliburton fat cat in the VP's chair.   
   >   
   >> that thinks corporations know what's   
   >> best for us in everything from products to who should be running our   
   >> lives??????   
   >   
   >What corporation is running your life?   
      
   well lets take the power company.  It tells you when you can and can   
   not have light or the use of electrical appliances and with its   
   billing and outragious costs (especially when I lived in Colorado) how   
   much money it would allow me to have after I pay it.   
      
   Corporate America has power in government it has no right to under our   
   system of government.  It influences if not buys outright the people   
   who should be representing our honest and legitimate interests.  Lets   
   take the Disney Corp for instance.  The rest of us get two 17 year   
   copy rights on something and that's it but did you know that Disney   
   bought and paid for a certain former actor and singer with a huge   
   campaign and put him in Washington, who then got a law passed giving   
   Disney almost eternial rights to Mickey and the rest of the   
   characters???   
      
   THOM   
   who unlike the coward in the white house is a Viet Nam Vet   
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