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|    28 May 17 14:50:38    |
      XPost: alt.abortion, alt.acting, alt.appalachian       XPost: alt.arguments       From: losers@cnn.com              Mark Zuckerberg has returned to Harvard and gained an honorary       degree instead of the earned one he dropped out not to get. He       also gave the commencement speech which was not a bad effort at       all. However, there's one piece of it which shows that his       thinking still isn't quite correct. It's over the economics of       jobs, job losses to automation, all that onward march of       technology stuff. He's indicating that we've got to work hard to       create the jobs needed by those replaced by automation. And       that's really not the right way around to be thinking of it.       Instead, much more important, is that automation frees up labour       to go off and do other things. This is something we must get the       right way around or we'll end up like Bill Gates and       recommending the absurdity of a tax upon robots. No, we want as       much automation as fast as we can get it:              Harvard dropout Mark Zuckerberg returned to the university       Thursday to give graduates a commencement address, filled with       calls for building a connected world "where every single person       has a sense of purpose."              In a wide-ranging speech that touched on climate change,       charity, volunteering, education and universal basic income, the       billionaire CEO of Facebook championed globalism and called       fighting authoritarianism and nationalism "the struggle of our       time."              I too support the universal basic income but that''s more about,       for me, the thought that it's a better welfare system than the       one we have now rather than being necessitated by automation.       I'm a big, big, believer in the power of incentives and concepts       like the Laffer Curve. Where I differ from many is that I see       the tax and benefit withdrawal rates faced by low income earners       who better themselves as being so high that they're creating       Laffer effects. Sure, this is more prevalent here in Europe than       in the US but in Britain we know very well that there are       millions of poor people who face 60% and above effective tax       rates if they increase their working hours and thus their       income. The, to me, benefit of the UBI is that it entirely       eliminates those Laffer effects.              As a CEO, Zuckerberg sees his role as managing risk. "On a day-       to-day basis, a lot of the decisions I am making are like, 'Okay       is this going to destroy the company?' Because if not, then let       them test it," says Zuckerberg.              "If the cost of the test isn't going to be super high, then in       general, we are going to learn a lot more by experimenting and       by letting the teams go and explore the things that are worth       exploring than by having a heavy hand in that," he says.              That's from an interview but that's an interesting point being       made. Because it's the underlying argument in favour of a market       based economic system. Allow people to go try whatever, that's       how we find out what works. And one way of looking at a market       based system, as opposed to a planned one, is that it's an       experiment machine. Technology continually changes, so do human       tastes and desires, a market allows us to process through the       various combinations of what can be done and what people want       done faster than any other system. That's why it works.              Noting that society will likely see "tens of millions of jobs       replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks" in the       coming years, Zuckerberg called for young people to work on       large public works projects to make new jobs. Though he didn't       specify what sorts of projects those should be, or what hand       companies such as Facebook could play in them, he did cite some       past examples.              Zuckerberg noted that previous generations have their own       "defining works" - the Hoover Dam, the space program, the fight       against polio - that pulled them together and imbued America       with civic pride. Citing global problems including climate       change and pandemics, Zuckerberg said that millennials, himself       included, understand themselves as global citizens rather than       belonging to any nation-state.              "To keep our society moving forward, we have a generational       challenge - to not only create new jobs, but create a renewed       sense of purpose," he said.              But that's where Zuckerberg's economic understanding is going a       little astray. Because it simply isn't true that we want to       create jobs, that's not the point of it all. Quite the opposite       in fact, we want to destroy jobs, destroy as many as we can.       Which is the value of automation to us of course, that we do       destroy jobs. From the prepared remarks at Facebook:              Our generation will have to deal with tens of millions of jobs       replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks. But we       have the potential to do so much more together.       Every generation has its defining works. More than 300,000       people worked to put a man on the moon – including that janitor.       Millions of volunteers immunized children around the world       against polio. Millions of more people built the Hoover dam and       other great projects.       These projects didn't just provide purpose for the people doing       those jobs, they gave our whole country a sense of pride that we       could do great things.              That's really not the right way around to think of it. Instead,       we should consider it in this manner. It's the curing polio,       having electricity, going to the Moon that we want to do. If we       could do that with one little gizmo that took 10 minutes to make       and needs one gal to flip the switch then that's great. If it       requires 1 million people to work together then that's just what       we have to do. But we've got to recall, insist on remembering,       that the jobs are a cost of our getting that thing done. The       reason we must so insist is the old economic problem itself.       We've an unlimited number of things we want to get done but       we've only scarce resources to do them with. And human labour is       one of those scarce resources. Which is why we're so happy when       a job is automated away. That means the labour of one human       being has been liberated, freed up, to go and aid in achieving       one of those other goals that we want to achieve.              Only if we do get this right in our own minds are we going to be       able to react correctly to technological change. There's       absolutely nothing wrong at all with grand projects, with       millions cooperating to achieve them. But it's the project we       want to achieve, the jobs are the cost of doing so.              https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/05/26/zuckerbergs-       harvard-speech-shows-he-doesnt-quite-get-the-economics-of-jobs-       and-automation/#77e304ec1671                      --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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