XPost: uk.religion.misc, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, talk.religion.misc   
   From: stevegumm@nohotspammail.com   
      
   Just as well God forgives them for they know not what they do ...   
   especially to the language of Angels HAHA.   
   See below   
      
   --   
   Peace, Love and Enlightenment,   
   Hatsenas   
   ~^Q^~   
   defcon wrote in message   
   news:3f470e43@news.comindico.com.au...   
   > While speaking to some JWs I was told that there is more than one God, and   
   > they quoted John 1:1 as their reference.   
   > In the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was A   
   god.   
      
   The word = the way of behaving   
   the way of behaving as a God= Godly ways   
   Heal the sick, sustain the poor, love all. Thats the moral lesson. now for   
   language.   
      
   > It is quite a good argument, except that I had, at that time, been   
   studying   
   > biblical Greek and knew that the word 'THE" is what is known as a DEFINATE   
   (is that definite?)   
   > ARTICLE while the work 'A' is an INDEFINATE ARTICLE. The God is refering   
   to   
   > a definate item nwhile (nwhat?)a god is referring to an indefinate item (I   
   hope you   
   > understand that English leson) (lesson?)   
   > The point is that the JWs claim the Word was '"A" god, but in fact, the   
   > Greeks did not use the INDEFINATE ARTICLE in their language, only the   
   > DEFINATE ARTICLE, so with very litle research, it was obvious that their   
   > translation of the bible has at least 1 major mistake.   
      
   and yours is perfick!-)   
      
   > If there is even 1 mistake, then that text can not be trusted.   
   > Let us hope that many JWs will realise that they are being told what the   
   > oversight wants them to hear, not actually the truth.   
   > God loves us ll, (through sickness and health)but I wonder if he loves   
   those that knowingly follow   
   > another gospel?   
      
   For your sake I hope God loves us all 0 !-)   
      
      
   >   
   > "Lupe Lu" wrote in message   
   > news:1gZ0b.3378$IY5.155@fe01.atl2.webusenet.com...   
   > >   
   > > "Nori Otaku" wrote in message   
   > > news:pan.2003.08.20.10.57.31.546697.23736@noriotaku.usenet...   
   > > : . = * | * = .. wrote on Tue, 19 Aug 2003 01:21:29 -0500:   
   > > : > Which TRUTH? They change their truth so often no one can keep up?   
   > ;-)   
   > > : > Anyone know what their newest TRUTH is these days? And remember,   
   with   
   > > the   
   > > : > WTS what is sworn truth today is no longer truth tomorrow....   
   > > :: > Remember the 1975 fiasco??? Now that was their TRUTH in the 60s   
   and   
   > > 70s and   
   > > : > anyone who questioned it was disfellowshipped. It's of course OLD   
   > TRUTH   
   > > now   
   > > : > in favor of newer truths. LOL!!!!   
   > > :======================   
   > > : Do you do any research?   
   > >   
   > > ** Do YOU? I was studying with them in the 60s........ where were YOU   
   > back   
   > > then?   
   > >   
   > > There was a *faction* of JW's that believed the   
   > > : world would end in 1975. Even some of the highly-placed believed it   
   to   
   > > : be so. Many left after nothing happened. However, no one was   
   > > : disfellowshipped for not believing in the 1975 date.   
   > >   
   > > * BS my dear,.... 2 in a Bklyn KHZ were DFed for trying to convince   
   > others   
   > > to stay in college, to go ahead and marry and have a family etc. They   
   > > simply did not believe all the nonsense that 1975 was the end of this   
   > system   
   > > of things - as was being taught at the time. The JWs even had scripture   
   > to   
   > > PROVE 75 was the end. The elders were discouraging these things so   
   young   
   > > people would have more time and freedom to seek out new recruits.   
   > > :   
   > > : If you want to harp on the JW redefinition of truths, there are much   
   > > : better candidates than the highly-publicized 1975 incident.   
   > >   
   > > * Such as?   
   > > :   
   > > : Besides, what the JW's define as "The Truth" is the core dogmatic   
   > beliefs   
   > > : of their system. Those core beliefs settled into place long before   
   > 1975.   
   > >   
   > > * Their truths change faster than many can keep up with......   
   > > --   
   > > Scallion...   
   > > JOH 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, "Take these things   
   > > hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise (like   
   > > the Jehovah's Witnesses have wickedly done by selling books and   
   > magazines.)   
   > > ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
   If God is infinite...there is no end!   
   God bless, love and keep you asking those questions...in the angels language   
   please. So we can understand your point.   
   Therein lies enlightenment.   
   Hatsenas.   
      
      
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