XPost: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: lacruiser@aol.com   
      
   On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:22:22 GMT, "jabriol"    
   wrote:   
      
      
   >The watchtower is themselves a non-profit corporation who accept donations.   
   >They have various programs, that help people directly, whether jw's or not.   
      
   Name them!   
      
   >Just like other organization, they concentrate on  a specific theme   
   >...Biblical education and their funds are concentrated there.   
      
   Yes, winning converts is more important than feeding them, getting   
   medical supplies to them, educating them with the skills to find jobs,   
   etc,.   
      
   >They  have   
   >assisted greatly in the medical field and fought for personal liberties in   
   >this country and in others.   
      
   For example?   
      
   >they have an educational program for those who   
   >do not know how to read or write..   
      
   ...but you fail to list any details about this program. Do you know   
   that such a program exists, or are you just being a sock puppet that   
   spews what you're told by the WT without question?   
      
   >it is all religious based, however.. so   
   >don't be surprise to read Carol twisted rants and lies..   
   >Because she hate men, and envy the success the WTBS and JW's in general   
   >have..   
      
   Gee, I'm a man, and Carol had never showed any hatred toward me in   
   this newsgroup. Why do you suppose that is?   
      
   >so when you read her reply to this post remember this   
   >   
   >Carol has been caught in various  vicious lies, with intent to slander JW's   
      
   I guess when you're buried in WT "truth" anything to the contrary will   
   appear to be a lie.   
      
   >Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.   
   >_Where does she get her information?   
      
   Experience.   
      
   >_Can her information be verified?   
      
   Form former JWs that can corroborate it.   
      
   >_Is the information up to date?   
      
   Since when does living your life in a coercive cult have to do with   
   such an experience being "up to date."   
      
   >_What is the purpose of her post?   
      
   If one lurker out there somewhere sees the light and starts thinking   
   for themselves, the purpose has been served.   
      
   >To present reliable facts or sling mud on   
   >a religious organization in good standing in almost every country in the   
   >world?   
      
   Good standing!?! GUMAFB! It might be so in countries where people are   
   poorly educated, and therefore gullible, but in countries where people   
   have at least some brain cells, the JWs are associated with the sound   
   of slamming doors.   
      
   >Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your conversation   
   >with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time on discussing subjects   
   >based on fraudulent and fabricated information. Therefore participating with   
   >her attempt at slander, and distributing false information elsewhere, may   
   >make you a  lying fool as well.. Why throw Pearls at swine?   
      
   Although I wasn't raised a JW, I may as well have been, since they   
   exhibit many of the same coercive controls that I had to live through   
   when I was growing up. The evidence? I lived it! If you don't want to   
   accept that, that's your problem.   
      
      
   >Facts about Carol:   
   >   
   >*She can never present evidence.   
      
   I'm sure nothing she posts would satisfy your requirements.   
      
   >*she never reveal the source of her info(because there is none). Her common   
   >reply, is   
   >"everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it up?   
      
   Out of curiosity, I did a Google search on that exact phrase as used   
   in this newsgroup. The above quote is the only time it was ever used.   
   I guess that makes you a liar, doesn't it?   
      
   >*She always hide her identity. And change her header to avoid killfiles.   
      
   Nothing wrong with that.   
      
   >*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail addreses   
   >which her ISP allows her to do.   
      
   FWIW, most ISPs don't care what people do in newsgroups. They're more   
   concerned with spam e-mails, and cross-posting ads to hundreds of   
   newsgroups than with someone that changes their handle on a daily   
   basis.   
      
   >And if you don't belive me...just read her reply on this thread..   
      
      
      
   I don't think she'll reply, unless it's to agree with what I wrote.   
   She and I share a lot of the same opinions, although we MAY disagree   
   on specific points. Those, however, aren't worth arguing about.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)