XPost: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, talk.politics   
   From: jabriol@sparta.org   
      
   "Varicose Brain" wrote in message   
   news:1s38lvk7v9b06nbod1tu6cld3a2bbhvje6@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:22:22 GMT, "jabriol"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   > >The watchtower is themselves a non-profit corporation who accept   
   donations.   
   > >They have various programs, that help people directly, whether jw's or   
   not.   
   >   
   > Name them!   
   >   
   > >Just like other organization, they concentrate on a specific theme   
   > >...Biblical education and their funds are concentrated there.   
   >   
   > Yes, winning converts is more important than feeding them, getting   
   > medical supplies to them, educating them with the skills to find jobs,   
   > etc,.   
   >   
      
   so you expect the watchtower to do, what regular institutions in the USA   
   fail to do with taxpayer's money?   
      
      
      
   > >They have   
   > >assisted greatly in the medical field and fought for personal liberties   
   in   
   > >this country and in others.   
   >   
   > For example?   
      
   as Carol said.. I have a gizillions posts on the subject.. look them up..   
   like the post about donating books in Nigeria etc..   
   >   
   > >they have an educational program for those who   
   > >do not know how to read or write..   
   >   
   > ...but you fail to list any details about this program. Do you know   
   > that such a program exists, or are you just being a sock puppet that   
   > spews what you're told by the WT without question?   
      
   ask them the next time they knock at your door.   
      
   >   
   > >it is all religious based, however.. so   
   > >don't be surprise to read Carol twisted rants and lies..   
   > >Because she hate men, and envy the success the WTBS and JW's in general   
   > >have..   
   >   
   > Gee, I'm a man, and Carol had never showed any hatred toward me in   
   > this newsgroup. Why do you suppose that is?   
      
   birds of the same feather......   
      
   >   
   > >so when you read her reply to this post remember this   
   > >   
   > >Carol has been caught in various vicious lies, with intent to slander   
   JW's   
   >   
   > I guess when you're buried in WT "truth" anything to the contrary will   
   > appear to be a lie.   
   >   
   > >Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.   
   > >_Where does she get her information?   
   >   
   > Experience.   
      
   not good enought.. not even a petite court hearing..   
      
   >   
   > >_Can her information be verified?   
   >   
   > Form former JWs that can corroborate it.   
      
   yup and republican verified all the crimes comitted from clinton as well.   
      
      
   >   
   > >_Is the information up to date?   
   >   
   > Since when does living your life in a coercive cult have to do with   
   > such an experience being "up to date."   
      
   Carol was never a JW.. hanging around with them, doesnt make her one..   
   in a court of law, you can bring in two experts, one from the defense, the   
   other from the prosecutor.. both have experiance and are licensed in thier   
   field.. the conclucion is not based on thier "experiance"   
      
   >   
   > >_What is the purpose of her post?   
   >   
   > If one lurker out there somewhere sees the light and starts thinking   
   > for themselves, the purpose has been served.   
      
   what light?..   
      
   >   
   > >To present reliable facts or sling mud on   
   > >a religious organization in good standing in almost every country in the   
   > >world?   
   >   
   > Good standing!?! GUMAFB! It might be so in countries where people are   
   > poorly educated, and therefore gullible, but in countries where people   
   > have at least some brain cells, the JWs are associated with the sound   
   > of slamming doors.   
      
      
   so you call the USA a poorly educated country eh?   
      
   guess you havent read any of my gizillians posts were thousands became JW's   
   this summer.. Poor dumb america..tsk tsk...   
      
   >   
   > >Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your   
   conversation   
   > >with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time on discussing   
   subjects   
   > >based on fraudulent and fabricated information. Therefore participating   
   with   
   > >her attempt at slander, and distributing false information elsewhere, may   
   > >make you a lying fool as well.. Why throw Pearls at swine?   
   >   
   > Although I wasn't raised a JW, I may as well have been, since they   
   > exhibit many of the same coercive controls that I had to live through   
   > when I was growing up. The evidence? I lived it! If you don't want to   
   > accept that, that's your problem.   
      
      
   see my note about evidence, and hanging around JW's...   
   you are repeating yourself.....   
   >   
   >   
   > >Facts about Carol:   
   > >   
   > >*She can never present evidence.   
   >   
   > I'm sure nothing she posts would satisfy your requirements.   
      
   youre right.. since she has been caught lying and spreading misinformation..   
   that hurts anyone credibility.. and hers is about zero at this point.   
      
   >   
   > >*she never reveal the source of her info(because there is none). Her   
   common   
   > >reply, is   
   > >"everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it up?   
   >   
   > Out of curiosity, I did a Google search on that exact phrase as used   
   > in this newsgroup. The above quote is the only time it was ever used.   
   > I guess that makes you a liar, doesn't it?   
      
   cut the crap.. she use it all the time...which make me a truthsayer :-)   
      
   >   
   > >*She always hide her identity. And change her header to avoid killfiles.   
   >   
   > Nothing wrong with that.   
      
   ofcourse there is.. Tally got shutdown.. as least his didnt hide his name..   
      
      
   >   
   > >*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail   
   addreses   
   > >which her ISP allows her to do.   
   >   
   > FWIW, most ISPs don't care what people do in newsgroups. They're more   
   > concerned with spam e-mails, and cross-posting ads to hundreds of   
   > newsgroups than with someone that changes their handle on a daily   
   > basis.   
      
      
   ahh so you admit that she is a liar.. good for you...   
      
   >   
   > >And if you don't belive me...just read her reply on this thread..   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > I don't think she'll reply, unless it's to agree with what I wrote.   
   > She and I share a lot of the same opinions, although we MAY disagree   
   > on specific points. Those, however, aren't worth arguing about.   
      
      
   she will.. and she already has...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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