XPost: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, talk.religion.misc, alt.atheism
From: r_@somis.org
In article <9e9431eb.0409290246.7ac5ed61@posting.google.com>,
jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote:
>r_@somis.org (?R.L.Measures) wrote in message
news:...
>> In article , "Sylvia's Mother"
>> wrote:
>>
>>Carol witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
>before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
>NG
>do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
>She engage people in senseless debates about abosolutly nothing.
>Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
>
>Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
@@ The first question would be whether "Carol" has male or female equipment.
>_Where does she get her information?
>_Can her information be verified?
>_Is the information up to date?
>_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's or
sling mud on
>a religious organization in good standing in almost every country in the
world?
>
@@ If the JWs weren't being unfairly and visciously persecuted, they
could not possibly be true Christians.
cheers, Mr. J.
>Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
>conversation
>with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
>discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
>This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
>with her distributing false information elsewhere?
>
>Facts about Carol:
>
>*She can never present evidence.
>*she never reveal the source of her info(because there is none). Her
>common
>reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
>up?
>*She always hide her identity. And change her header to avoid
>killfiles.An TOS offense
>*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
>addreses
>which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them: support.heartoftn.net
>
>
>If your newgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
>topic.
>You can report her.
>
>Her account is windsong@heartoftn.net and you may report her to
>support@heartoftn.net
>and her use of remailers can still be traced to her account. You may
>inform them that there is UDP against them. No American ISP like to be
>associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
>under the First. It affect their commercial interrest.
>Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
>block List Heartoftn.net
>
>
>Why does Carol behave as she does?
>
>Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
>underachiever.
>She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
>biker gangsters in the
>60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
>marraiges and blames God for her poor choices. It is alledged that she
>lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
>proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote,with
>no place to go.
>
>
>She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
>their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
>war with them ever since.
>This has made her a very menatlly unstable woman, her hatred is
>intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now need aid
>of a pacemaker.
>
> By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
>her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. And that you the
>reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
>
>
> Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
>members will INDICATE that JW's
>and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
>proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
>"know"
>the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
>reality
>with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
>and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
>priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
>example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
>simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
>Witnesses, with ZERO
>proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
>attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
>in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
>
>One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
>teenages girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
>from Tower Records", in
>hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
>about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
>if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
>these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
>Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
>with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
>runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
>the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
>in.
>
>replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
>their
>post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
>other
>tabloids..
>
>notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol
>
>
>"SD" said about Carol
>
>Carol,
>
>When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
>are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
>with nothing but weasel tactics.
>
>I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
>to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
>wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
>organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
>one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
>in a particularly good light.
>
>Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
>head.
>
>She's here to subject her rantings to as many people as she can.
>She's not
>here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
>and
>lots of it
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