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   From: sornson@zk3.dec.com   
      
   william wrote:   
      
   > "Zod"  wrote in message   
   > news:1125591919.495395.305150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   >>Hi friends,   
   >>I live in Houston area and there is a massive JW  relief being   
   >>organized by   
   >>the brothers here.  Remember the flood by  tropical storm Allison that   
   >>you read   
   >>about in Awake, I guess that was a  training ground for us.  One of our   
   >>   
   >>Kingdom Halls has been designated the  relief center for JWs.   
   >   
   >   
   > Translation- screw the rest of you poor suckers, it's us verses the rest of   
   > the world so suffer.   
      
   JWs go door to door inviting people, all people   
   to join with us.  And what's the general response?   
   Go away!  'Screw you!'  (And worse.)   
      
   In fact, what's the general point of most of the   
   posts to this group?  To get JWs to leave their   
   religion, so that maybe one day the whole thing   
   will fall apart and cease to exist.   
      
   But all of a sudden, when disaster hits, and   
   JWs take care of their own -- which means   
   taking care of all those who accepted the   
   invitation to join them -- you complain that   
   JWs are not taking care of the material needs of   
   all others?   
      
   What a bunch of hypocrites you all are.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>It is   
   >>located on   
   >>Interstate 10 and Holland St. on the  east of Houston.  There are   
   >>friends manning   
   >>the phone to take calls and as  many can call out but can't receive   
   >>call they   
   >>are asking for all displaced  brothers to call and let them know where   
   >>you are   
   >>and your condition, etc., so  that they can keep track.   
   >   
   >   
   > Translation- We are screening the poeple who come to us, if you're NOT a JW   
   > then hit the road and find your own means of survival.   
      
   For over 100 years JWs have literally been   
   knocking on doors inviting all people to   
   come to us.  Over and over and over again.   
   So often that most people want us to go away   
   and never come back.   
      
   But wait!!! All of a sudden, you want us to   
   come back!   You tell us to get lost when everything   
   is just fine, but now you whine and complain when   
   people who reject us are crying for help?   
      
   Again, what a bunch of hypocrites you all are.   
      
   We're telling you all, 'come to our organization   
   for survival' (so that we can help each other   
   survive) ,but yet you expect our organization   
   to save those who reject it?  All of you who   
   reject our organization, who actively tell people   
   to stay away from us, or to quit (if they belong)   
   are telling people EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY, to   
   "find your own means of survival."   
      
   Well, guess what, William -- you will get exactly   
   what you are asking for.  If you're going to reject   
   JWs when times are good, and tell people 'there's   
   no salvation in the Watchtower organization,' why   
   should they save you when times are bad?  You are   
   creating a self-fullfilling prophesy, William.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>They are   
   >>compiling a   
   >>congregation by congregation  report. The phone # is blank.   
   >>   
   >>The City overseer from New Orleans is here too, his  house has 12 ft of   
   >>   
   >>water   
   >>in it.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Translation- he gets first dibs on the best bed in the house, and no one   
   > better question on that.   
      
   What a stupid comment.  The city overseer is   
   likely working hard to see that as many (in   
   the congregations he is responsible for) who need   
   a bed get one.  He probably isn't getting much   
   sleep in that 'comfy bed' you think he has.   
      
   Remember, William -- you are the one who just   
   recently confessed to having no faith in God   
   at all, and you adamantly said that if you   
   ever turned to religion again, it would   
   definitely NOT be JWs.   
      
   But yet, you claim that JWs should be the ones   
   to come to the rescue of all who are like you,   
   who tell us to get lost when times are good?   
      
   What a hypocrite you are.  Everyone else who   
   is making the exact same complaint is also   
   a hypocrite for the same reason.  You say   
   'get lost' to us when times are good.  You   
   say 'quit that organization' when times are   
   good.  But when times are bad, you cry "why   
   aren't you helping us?  Why aren't you   
   helping all others?"  The answer is that we   
   can't help everyone because you yourself   
   refuse to help us help people.  If you want   
   us to rescue others, then you must join with   
   us to help make that possible.   
      
   Otherwise, quit complaining about it, and   
   point people to all of the ways YOU have   
   to offer that have nothing to do with us   
   (because you reject us).   
      
   What religion should not take care of their   
   own?  Where are the rescuers from all of   
   the non-JW religions, to rescue their own?   
      
   -mark.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)