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   From: sornson@zk3.dec.com   
      
   william wrote:   
      
   > Exactly Gordie, they have no problem in accepting money, goods, and other   
   > forms of support from a NON-JW but when it comes to them they wouldn't be   
   > caught dead helping a NON-JW.   
      
   And ... you know for a certainty that JWs never   
   help non-JWs because ... what? people in this   
   group say that?   
      
   >   
   > I would personaly like to thank ZOD for exposing us to the way JW really   
   > feel about charity and the world view they have about others. I guess it's   
   > ok to say one thing and do something different.....as long as you do it in   
   > the Name of God.   
   >   
   > Mormons on the other hand will help non-LDS, BUT they try and convert you in   
   > the process. Funny how cults can go from one extreame to the other in 0.01   
   > secs   
      
   How long does the help last if the person does   
   not convert?   
      
   >   
   > I wounder how the WTBTS would feel if ALL other charities was to cut off any   
   > funding to them, I am sure they would rant and rave over it.   
      
   In all likelihood, the WTS isn't funded by other   
   charities.  The 'United Way' thing (that you and   
   others have made a stink about) really isn't   
   about the United Way funding the WTS, but rather,   
   the United Way (of Santa Barbara) seeking to take   
   a cut (as an administration-fee for being a middle-   
   man) from donations that individuals might choose   
   to send to the WTS through them.   
      
    From the beginning, the WTS's policy (in print)   
   has been that when the money dries up, that means   
   Jehovah's blessing has been taken away.   
      
   >                                                               Personaly I   
   > beleive that if they don't help outsiders then the outsiders such as the   
   > unuted way should cut them from recieveing any funds.   
      
   I suspect that you greatly over-estimate the   
   reality of how donations get to the WTS.  As   
   we've talked about before, the United Way has   
   volunteered to be a middle-man, to take a percentage   
   cut to pass along donations from private individuals   
   to the WTS (and other IRS registered charities).   
   If the United Way said that they would no longer   
   pass along donations to the WTS, the individual   
   donors (if there were any) would likely find another   
   way.   
      
    >                                                        As I said before I   
   > think Zod nailed it on the head when he showed us that the JW don't care who   
   > they get a dollar from , as long as they get that dollar, but when it comes   
   > down to who that dollar helps... well that's a different story.   
      
   If the WTS receives a dollar, they assume that   
   it is sent in from the original donor with   
   sincerity.  Isn't that what all charities assume?   
   Who sends donations to a charity or a religion   
   JUST SO THE RECIPIENT CAN BE ACCUSED OF TAKING   
   MONEY FROM TAINTED SOURCES?  Who does that, William?   
      
   What 'sinner' doesn't have the privilege and the   
   right to attempt to do good by making a donation   
   to a religion or a charity?  And what religion or   
   charity would say, "no, you are a sinner ... we   
   won't take your money or recognize the sincerity   
   of your act of giving"?   
      
   If you or anyone else wants to make sure that   
   your money goes to someone other than JWs and   
   the WTS, guess what the solution is?  DONATE   
   TO SOME OTHER CHARITY OR RELIGION, or HAND-DELIVER   
   YOUR DONATION YOURSELF!!  It's just that simple,   
   William.  All this teeth-grinding about money   
   given to the WTS not going to non-JWs is pointless,   
   and is purely an exercise in gum-flapping when   
   there are plenty of ways to not send money to   
   JWs, and to send it to non-JWs.  You and other   
   anti-JWs are just using this disaster as an   
   excuse to exploit your anti-JW agenda.  But   
   that exploitation doesn't prove you to be more   
   righteous.   
      
   -mark.   
      
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