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   way in which the Church has existed is that truth has been without   
   dispute, or, if it has been contested, there has been the Pope, or, failing   
   him, there has been the Church.   
      
   850. The five propositions condemned, but no miracle; for the truth was not   
   attacked. But the Sorbonne... but the bull...   
      
   It is impossible that those who love God with all their heart should fail to   
   recognise the Church; so evident is she. It is impossible that those who do   
   not love God should be convinced of the Church.   
      
   Miracles have such influence that it was necessary that God should warn men   
   not to believe in them in opposition to Him, all clear as it is that there   
   is a God. Without this they would have been able to disturb men.   
      
   And thus so far from these passages, Deut. 13, making against the authority   
   of the miracles, nothing more indicates their influence. And the same in   
   respect of Antichrist. "To seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."   
      
   851. The history of the man born blind.   
      
   What says Saint Paul? Does he continually speak of the evidence of the   
   prophecies? No, but of his own miracle. What says Jesus Christ? Does He   
   speak of the evidence of the prophecies? No; His death had not fulfilled   
   them. But he says, Si non fecissem.213 Believe the works.   
      
   Two supernatural foundations of our wholly supernatural religion; one   
   visible, the other invisible; miracles with grace, miracles without grace.   
      
   The synagogue, which had been treated with love as a type of the Church, and   
   with hatred, because it was only the type, has been restored, being on the   
   point of falling when it was well with God, and thus a type.   
      
   Miracles prove the power which God has over hearts, by that whi   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)