XPost: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
From: lacruiser@aol.com
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:48:10 GMT, "jabriol"
wrote:
>> Yes, winning converts is more important than feeding them, getting
>> medical supplies to them, educating them with the skills to find jobs,
>> etc,.
>>
>
>so you expect the watchtower to do, what regular institutions in the USA
>fail to do with taxpayer's money?
What regular institutions do is a non-sequitur. I expect the WT to
tell the truth about their operations. Fat chance of that happening,
however.
>> >They have
>> >assisted greatly in the medical field and fought for personal liberties
>in
>> >this country and in others.
>>
>> For example?
>
>as Carol said.. I have a gizillions posts on the subject.. look them up..
>like the post about donating books in Nigeria etc..
...gizillions of posts, with no references.
>> ...but you fail to list any details about this program. Do you know
>> that such a program exists, or are you just being a sock puppet that
>> spews what you're told by the WT without question?
>
>ask them the next time they knock at your door.
I'm not asking them. I'm asking you. You're the one that mentioned it.
>> >it is all religious based, however.. so
>> >don't be surprise to read Carol twisted rants and lies..
>> >Because she hate men, and envy the success the WTBS and JW's in general
>> >have..
>>
>> Gee, I'm a man, and Carol had never showed any hatred toward me in
>> this newsgroup. Why do you suppose that is?
>
>birds of the same feather......
So, you make a statement that Carol hates all men, and I point out
your faulty reasoning, and all you can do is come up with a worn out
cliche.
>> I guess when you're buried in WT "truth" anything to the contrary will
>> appear to be a lie.
>>
>> >Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
>> >_Where does she get her information?
>>
>> Experience.
>
>not good enought.. not even a petite court hearing..
>
>> >_Can her information be verified?
>>
>> Form former JWs that can corroborate it.
>
>yup and republican verified all the crimes comitted from clinton as well.
Like I said earlier, if any facts or evidence are presented that are
contrary to your beliefs, you'll find some way to reject it.
>> >_Is the information up to date?
>>
>> Since when does living your life in a coercive cult have to do with
>> such an experience being "up to date."
>
>Carol was never a JW.. hanging around with them, doesnt make her one..
>in a court of law, you can bring in two experts, one from the defense, the
>other from the prosecutor.. both have experiance and are licensed in thier
>field.. the conclucion is not based on thier "experiance"
If your going to talk about "expert" testimony in a court of law, I'll
give you some information about why lawyers won't seat a potential
juror that is a magician or has some sort of background in science.
>> >_What is the purpose of her post?
>>
>> If one lurker out there somewhere sees the light and starts thinking
>> for themselves, the purpose has been served.
>
>what light?..
If you have to ask that question, you're dumber than I thought.
>> Good standing!?! GUMAFB! It might be so in countries where people are
>> poorly educated, and therefore gullible, but in countries where people
>> have at least some brain cells, the JWs are associated with the sound
>> of slamming doors.
>
>
>so you call the USA a poorly educated country eh?
>
>guess you havent read any of my gizillians posts were thousands became JW's
>this summer.. Poor dumb america..tsk tsk...
...and you never did answer my post about how many walked out of the
Kingdom Halls, never to return, once they got fed up with the elders
dictating every aspect of how to live their lives.
>> Although I wasn't raised a JW, I may as well have been, since they
>> exhibit many of the same coercive controls that I had to live through
>> when I was growing up. The evidence? I lived it! If you don't want to
>> accept that, that's your problem.
>
>
>see my note about evidence, and hanging around JW's...
>you are repeating yourself.....
Like you just did?
>> >Facts about Carol:
>> >
>> >*She can never present evidence.
>>
>> I'm sure nothing she posts would satisfy your requirements.
>
>youre right.. since she has been caught lying and spreading misinformation..
>that hurts anyone credibility.. and hers is about zero at this point.
Based on my experiences, growing up in a cult-like environment, I can
corroborate what Carol says. You refusal to accept this does not
change the facts.
>> Out of curiosity, I did a Google search on that exact phrase as used
>> in this newsgroup. The above quote is the only time it was ever used.
>> I guess that makes you a liar, doesn't it?
>
>cut the crap.. she use it all the time...which make me a truthsayer :-)
Not only are you a liar, you're so narrow-minded that you actually
believe your lies.
>> >*She always hide her identity. And change her header to avoid killfiles.
>>
>> Nothing wrong with that.
>
>ofcourse there is.. Tally got shutdown.. as least his didnt hide his name..
>
>> >*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
>addreses
>> >which her ISP allows her to do.
>>
>> FWIW, most ISPs don't care what people do in newsgroups. They're more
>> concerned with spam e-mails, and cross-posting ads to hundreds of
>> newsgroups than with someone that changes their handle on a daily
>> basis.
>
>
>ahh so you admit that she is a liar.. good for you...
Since when is changing a handle/nickname on a daily basis the same as
lying? It's pretty obvious that when you see an off-the-wall name or a
handle that consists of a bunch of punctuation marks, that it's coming
from Carol. I'd hardly call that lying.
>> I don't think she'll reply, unless it's to agree with what I wrote.
>> She and I share a lot of the same opinions, although we MAY disagree
>> on specific points. Those, however, aren't worth arguing about.
>
>
>she will.. and she already has...
Then I guess she's not a liar then, is she?
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