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   From: Get-enslaved@theWickedWTs.net   
      
   "Nori Otaku"  wrote in message   
   news:pan.2003.09.08.06.08.52.541276@noriotaku.usenet...   
   > ~~  *{@()@}*  ~~ wrote on Sat, 06 Sep 2003 19:22:37 -0500:   
   > > **  You seem to be on too high a dose again.  I'm agnostic,....   
   remember?   
   > > Make a note and stick it on your PC so you don't forget.  :-)   
   ========================   
   > Since there seems to be some confusion, in general, over what "agnostic"   
   > really means, I'd appreciate if you could state for the record if you   
   mean:   
   >   
   > a) God is unknowable, and therefore attempts to know God are futile, or   
   > b) you are undecided on whether or not God exists, or   
   > c) the question of God's existence is irrelevant.   
      
   ## In my case all 3 would apply.  There is no proof of a god.  That doesn't   
   mean some "higher power" or "great spirit" doesn't exist somewhere in the   
   Universe.   There is no proof one doesn't exist, although I find it highly   
   unlikely.  If it does, it would be way beyond our comprehension, our ability   
   to understand.   
    If it exists it has no ability to effect what mankind does, and may not   
   even care (Germany & the Jews for example).  People pray and it's a 50/50   
   chance they get what they pray for - be that the life of a loved one, relief   
   from hunger or financial pressures, or to even bear a child.  So why bother?   
   Those who don't pray also have a 50/50 chance to get what they want and   
   need.  Some are religious fanatics, true believers and die horrible deaths -   
   like the Lillilid family here in TN.   
    This god would be genderless since sex/sex organs/reproduction would not   
   apply so why call it he/him/his etc?  Life may have been seeded here in the   
   far distant past.  Left to it's own devices to survive it adapted and   
   evolved to fill every nook and cranny of the globe.   
   And lastly, some promised "afterlife" is of no consequence here on earth   
   NOW.  It has no survival or evolutionary advantage.  I see it as nothing   
   more than a way to control people =  "Do as I/we say or [fill in the   
   consequence depending on religious belief.]"   
      
   > I can't promise I'll remember, but it would be nice to have the reference.   
   >   
   > --   
   > NoriOtaku :: Change 'spam' to 'com' to send mail   
      
   Ida Mae........   
   "I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a   
   will of the   
   type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should   
   survive his   
   physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...;   
   such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls."   
       ~  Albert Einstein  ~   
   ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)