XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism
XPost: sci.skeptic
From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 00:31:37 +1100, felix_unger wrote:
>On 31-December-2014 12:23 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:23:57 +1100, felix_unger wrote:
>>
>>> On 31-December-2014 3:59 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:55:08 +1100, felix_unger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30-December-2014 2:11 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:02:04 +1100, felix_unger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30-December-2014 1:27 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "felix_unger" skrev i meddelelsen
>>>>>>>> news:cgdpvbFdtgnU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... atheists cannot prove God does not exist, you can only believe it
>>>>>>>>> to be the case, and so you have faith that belief is correct.
>>>>>>>> And so do you, have faith, when you believe in the non-existence of
>>>>>>>> invisible pink unicorns in a parallel universe, right?
>>>>>>> I have faith (confidence) in a belief that such a proposition is
>>>>>>> nonsense is true
>>>>>> Yet the IPU relies on exactly as much evidence
>>>>> wrong. there is no evidence for the IPU
>>>> Which is exactly as much evidence as you have for every other deity.
>>> wrong
>> So you allege, but you never manage to present any evidence for any
>> deities.
>
>you've been given the evidence numerous times but you deny it is
>evidence. when will you get off the merry-go-round?
Specify exactly what evidence you have provided.
>>>>>> as the deity you worship.
>>>>> and still you lie about me. if you continue to do so, I will disengage.
>>>>> I might as well, you have persisted on every occasion that I have
>>>>> engaged with you.
>>>> It's hard to believe you are atheist
>>> I am not
>> Then why do you seem to try to hide which deity you worship?
>
>you really are stupid
So you say.
>>>> since you spend so much time
>>>> attacking atheism and defending theism.
>>> I have been arguing against claims that atheists make, and make about
>>> themselves. you ppl just never seem to get this.
>> You have been making claims, not arguments.
>
>bullshit
>
>> Your assertions are without
>> substantiation. No evidence or valid argument ever follows from your
>> claims.
>
>absolute nonsense. I don't know if you're completely stupid or
>completely dishonest, but it has to be one or the other- or perhaps a
>combination of both
>
>> Which deity do you think has supporting evidence?
>>
>> Why can't you be bothered to present that alleged evidence to us?
>>
>>>>>>>> I don't believe we're all brains soaking in pods in a matrix, either,
>>>>>>>> even if I can't prove it, and it doesn't take faith to not believe it.
>>>>>>>> I live my life, as if we aren't 'soakers' and as if there are no gods.
>>>>>>>> All three possibilites are equally absurd, and to make it a question
>>>>>>>> about faith shows a lack of understanding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But... why can't you and so many of the, openly, theistic minded,
>>>>>>>> understand that it does not take faith to not believe in something,
>>>>>>>> which takes faith to have belief in the existence of?
>>>>>>> it doesn't take faith to not believe, but it takes faith to believe
that
>>>>>>> a belief is correct/true. ie.. one has faith that ones belief is
>>>>>>> correct. Is it not so?
>>>>>> It is not so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes no faith not to believe in deities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes no faith to accept scientific evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes no faith to accept logical proofs.
>>>>> ok, prove there is no God. you can't.
>>>> I have no need to prove there are no deities. You demand that I make a
>>>> general proof of the negative, something you know cannot be done.
>
>exactly. you have only your belief, so no reason to claim any moral high
>ground, as you keep trying to do.
>
>
>
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