XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:23:22 -0600, Free Lunch wrote:   
      
   >On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:23:57 +1100, felix_unger wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 31-December-2014 3:59 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:55:08 +1100, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 30-December-2014 2:11 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:02:04 +1100, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 30-December-2014 1:27 PM, Malte Runz wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "felix_unger" skrev i meddelelsen   
   >>>>>>> news:cgdpvbFdtgnU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> (snip)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ... atheists cannot prove God does not exist, you can only believe it   
   >>>>>>>> to be the case, and so you have faith that belief is correct.   
   >>>>>>> And so do you, have faith, when you believe in the non-existence of   
   >>>>>>> invisible pink unicorns in a parallel universe, right?   
   >>>>>> I have faith (confidence) in a belief that such a proposition is   
   >>>>>> nonsense is true   
   >>>>> Yet the IPU relies on exactly as much evidence   
   >>>> wrong. there is no evidence for the IPU   
   >>> Which is exactly as much evidence as you have for every other deity.   
   >>   
   >>wrong   
   >   
   >So you allege, but you never manage to present any evidence for any   
   >deities.   
   >   
   >>>>> as the deity you worship.   
   >>>> and still you lie about me. if you continue to do so, I will disengage.   
   >>>> I might as well, you have persisted on every occasion that I have   
   >>>> engaged with you.   
   >>> It's hard to believe you are atheist   
   >>   
   >>I am not   
   >   
   >Then why do you seem to try to hide which deity you worship?   
   >   
   >>> since you spend so much time   
   >>> attacking atheism and defending theism.   
   >>   
   >>I have been arguing against claims that atheists make, and make about   
   >>themselves. you ppl just never seem to get this.   
   >   
   >You have been making claims   
      
    Like what?   
      
   >, not arguments. Your assertions are without   
   >substantiation. No evidence or valid argument ever follows from your   
   >claims.   
   >   
   >Which deity do you think has supporting evidence?   
   >   
   >Why can't you be bothered to present that alleged evidence to us?   
      
    You are evidence. I present you to you. By lying that there's no evidence   
   you ARE evidence of Satan's influence on human minds, whether Satan actually   
   exists or not.   
      
   >>>>>>> I don't believe we're all brains soaking in pods in a matrix, either,   
   >>>>>>> even if I can't prove it, and it doesn't take faith to not believe it.   
   >>>>>>> I live my life, as if we aren't 'soakers' and as if there are no gods.   
   >>>>>>> All three possibilites are equally absurd, and to make it a question   
   >>>>>>> about faith shows a lack of understanding.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But... why can't you and so many of the, openly, theistic minded,   
   >>>>>>> understand that it does not take faith to not believe in something,   
   >>>>>>> which takes faith to have belief in the existence of?   
   >>>>>> it doesn't take faith to not believe, but it takes faith to believe that   
   >>>>>> a belief is correct/true. ie.. one has faith that ones belief is   
   >>>>>> correct. Is it not so?   
   >>>>> It is not so.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It takes no faith not to believe in deities.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It takes no faith to accept scientific evidence.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It takes no faith to accept logical proofs.   
   >>>> ok, prove there is no God. you can't.   
   >>> I have no need to prove there are no deities. You demand that I make a   
   >>> general proof of the negative, something you know cannot be done. Since   
   >>> you implied about that you are atheist, why do you spend so much time   
   >>> defending theism?   
      
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