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   On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 07:05:20 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
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   >On 30-December-2014 1:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >   
   >>   If you eager to believe in things with no proof I have some old astrology   
   texts to sell you.   
   >   
   >if astrology is just nonsense, how  do you explain why it's accurate in   
   >describing ppl by their star signs?   
      
       Astrology is something I've never been able to have confidence in. I don't   
   want to create bad feelings between us by disputing with you about it, but   
   would   
   like to question it with you if you don't feel offended by it. The biggest   
   question for me is how it COULD work. And to me the way it could work is that   
   it's a seasonal sort of thing, and would have to do with the influence of the   
   sun on the Earth when the Earth is in various positions relative to the sun as   
   we orbit around it. I can't believe that the influence of any constellations   
   would be enough to have any significant influence on anything on this planet,   
   and probably couldn't be detected by any equipment humans have been able to   
   develop. But the influence of the sun on the Earth would be a totally different   
   consideration, like the fact that it's what keeps us from taking off in a   
   journey into space far away from the sun itself. So it would be an influence on   
   Earth by the sun's gravity when we're in different positions relative to the   
   sun, with nothing really to do with constellations that are too far away to   
   have   
   any influence. My reason for having doubts that even that would be significant   
   enough to give significance to astrology is the influence of the moon's   
   gravity,   
   and the possibility that it has more influence than the sun since it causes   
   tides, possibly having enough influence to make the sun's influece pretty much   
   insignificant in regards to how humans develop. But then the combination of the   
   influence of both of them could be the reason there's a pattern that people   
   were   
   able to recognise. And it's not that the constellations themselves have any   
   influence, but how they appear at different points in the Earth's travel around   
   the sun taught people to recognise that there IS a pattern. Unless the ever all   
   NOing atheists are right and there is no pattern, and no influence by sun or   
   moon on the development of humans... I haven't read many of their posts about   
   this, but I am wondering if they've brought out the tired old lie that there's   
   "no evidence" for it or not. Have they?   
      
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