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From: me@nothere.biz
On 05-January-2015 4:57 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 07:05:20 +1100, felix_unger wrote:
> ..
>> On 30-December-2014 1:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> If you eager to believe in things with no proof I have some old
astrology texts to sell you.
>> if astrology is just nonsense, how do you explain why it's accurate in
>> describing ppl by their star signs?
> Astrology is something I've never been able to have confidence in. I
don't
> want to create bad feelings between us by disputing with you about it, but
would
> like to question it with you if you don't feel offended by it.
no problem. speak freely
> The biggest
> question for me is how it COULD work. And to me the way it could work is that
> it's a seasonal sort of thing, and would have to do with the influence of the
> sun on the Earth when the Earth is in various positions relative to the sun
as
> we orbit around it. I can't believe that the influence of any constellations
> would be enough to have any significant influence on anything on this planet,
> and probably couldn't be detected by any equipment humans have been able to
> develop. But the influence of the sun on the Earth would be a totally
different
> consideration, like the fact that it's what keeps us from taking off in a
> journey into space far away from the sun itself. So it would be an influence
on
> Earth by the sun's gravity when we're in different positions relative to the
> sun, with nothing really to do with constellations that are too far away to
have
> any influence. My reason for having doubts that even that would be
significant
> enough to give significance to astrology is the influence of the moon's
gravity,
> and the possibility that it has more influence than the sun since it causes
> tides, possibly having enough influence to make the sun's influece pretty
much
> insignificant in regards to how humans develop. But then the combination of
the
> influence of both of them could be the reason there's a pattern that people
were
> able to recognise. And it's not that the constellations themselves have any
> influence, but how they appear at different points in the Earth's travel
around
> the sun taught people to recognise that there IS a pattern.
Interesting idea. I have no idea how the position of the planets could
affect humanity either. Astrology is just an interesting, curious, and
fun thing. It SEEMS to work. how or why, god only knows. but I find that
ppl seem to be typical of their star sign, generally speaking.
> Unless the ever all
> NOing atheists are right and there is no pattern, and no influence by sun or
> moon on the development of humans...
I have been discussing this topic at length with August Rode, and we
seem to have covered all the arguments for and against. read back in the
thread if you're interested enough to do so.
> I haven't read many of their posts about
> this, but I am wondering if they've brought out the tired old lie that
there's
> "no evidence" for it or not. Have they?
actually, in this thread AR did the opposite. he provided evidence
against it.
--
rgds,
Pete
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