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   Thomas to mur.@.not.   
   Re: Where can laymen find out more about   
   11 Jan 15 13:45:26   
   
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   From: thomasa@yahoo.com   
      
   In article    
   mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC), "70.66.89.54@sjrb.ca"   
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   > >On 05 Jan 2015, §pammer§top  posted some   
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   >      I'll tell you a little bit. They claim that there is no evidence of   
   God's   
   > existence which is an obviously stupid claim because if there really was   
   none,   
   > no one would believe he exists because there would be nothing TO believe.   
   Moving   
   > on with that stupidity we can conclude that their dishonest denial means they   
   > are very unsatisfied with and reject all evidence that does exist. This   
   clearly   
   > tells us they believe that if God truly does exist there should be some sort   
   of   
   > very strong verifiable evidence to the point of being proof that he does   
   exist.   
   > That much they make very clear. But! They have also made it very clear that   
   even   
   > though they believe such "evidence"/proof should exist, they have no clue at   
   all   
   > what it should be, where it should be, why it should even be available to   
   > humans, or when it should have been or should be made available. That's one   
   of   
   > the amusing positions they are in.   
      
   Atheists don't like it that atheism has been deemed a religion   
   either.   
      
   On August 16, 2013, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals held   
   for the second time that a prisoner’s request to form an atheist   
   study group must be given the same consideration as other   
   religious study groups.   
      
   Wisconsin prisoner James J. Kaufman, an atheist, asked to form a   
   study group dedicated to atheism. Prison officials denied his   
   request as one seeking to establish a nonreligious activity   
   group. He then filed suit in federal court.   
      
   In 2005, the Seventh Circuit held that prison officials had   
   violated Kaufman’s First Amendment rights by refusing his   
   request to create a religious study group dedicated to atheism   
   while allowing other religious study groups. See: Kaufman v.   
   McCaughtry, 419 F.3d 678 (7th Cir. 2005) (Kaufman I).   
      
   Kaufman v. Pugh   
   Year	2013   
   Cite	733 F.3d 692 (7th Cir. 2013)   
   Level	Court of Appeals   
   Appeals Court Edition	F.3d   
      
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