XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 12-January-2015 10:32 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   > On 12/01/2015 3:21 AM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >> On 11-January-2015 11:15 PM, Malte Runz wrote:   
   >>> "felix_unger"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >>> news:cheaf5Fsnf3U2@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>   
   >>> (snip)   
   >>>   
   >>>> If you respect ppl you will respect their beliefs as well   
   >>>   
   >>> Who whipped you into that murky corner of political correctness? It's   
   >>> about   
   >>> repsecting people's right to believe whatever they do. But don't   
   >>> expect me   
   >>> to respect the beliefs themselves. And if those beliefs deserve   
   >>> contempt   
   >>> then there is no way I can respect the people who hold them.   
   >>   
   >> what I was trying to say is that IF you have respect for someone, you   
   >> will show respect for what they believe. for example if you have a   
   >> Jewish friend you will not say something to them that would be offensive   
   >> to a Jewish person.   
   >   
   > There is a difference between respecting someone's beliefs and   
   > refraining from offending someone. If my theoretical Jewish friend was   
   > bent on discussing the veracity of his or her beliefs, I would   
   > certainly engage in that discussion and point out where their beliefs   
   > conflicted with reality as we understand it. It is a mark of respect   
   > to take such discussions seriously.   
   >   
   > If my theoretical friend doesn't want his or her beliefs challenged,   
   > then he or she shouldn't discuss them publicly.   
   >   
   >> OTOH I would not refrain from denigrating the   
   >> beliefs of someone who I had nothing but contempt for.   
   >   
   > If you'll pardon me for saying so, that's a pretty vile attitude. How   
   > can you possibly get to know anyone well enough to justifiably develop   
   > contempt for them and *still* develop that contempt. This must be that   
   > prejudice thing again, I suppose.   
   >   
      
   that's a silly remark (with respect). I wouldn't need to get to know a   
   member of ISIS to know that I have nothing but contempt for them and   
   their beleifs   
      
   --   
   rgds,   
      
   Pete   
   -------   
      
   "JE SUIS CHARLIE"   
      
   http://thereligionofpeace.com   
   http://pamelageller.com/   
   http://www.barenakedislam.com/   
   Brigitte Gabriel's answer to 'peaceful' moslems.. http://tinyurl   
   com/brigitteGab   
   "The right to free speech includes the right to offend"   
   "ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"   
   -Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA   
   "These terrorists and fanatics have nothing to do with the Muslim religion"   
   - idiotic FRENCH PRESIDENT FRANCOIS HOLLANDE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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