XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:07:05 -0500, mur wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:10:01 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >.   
   >>On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 13:11:33 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:01:58 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >>>.   
   >>>>In article , mur.@.not.   
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I don't. I take it for granted that no one is able to get to the   
   >>>>> proof you're referring to, and He doesn't feel that it's best for   
   >>>>> what He wants to see happen for him to make it available to us.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>What makes you thing that if such a person would prevent all evidence of   
   >>>>its existence   
   >>>   
   >>>    I don't believe he would have to prevent it as I already told you but   
   you   
   >>>don't seem able to comprehend. I believe it would be out of our reach to   
   view   
   >>>whatever equipment etc he made use of, as well as the being himself and any   
   >>>beings that helped him, and he would have to deliberately make it available   
   to   
   >>>us and that would only be if doing so would be best for what he wants to see   
   >>>happen, as I already explained for you.   
   >>   
   >>How could a creator create without interacting in the universe in which   
   >>it creates?   
   >   
   >    WHAT sort of interactions do you think there should have been or should   
   be,   
   >WHERE do you think the interactions should have been or should be, WHY do you   
   >think evidence of them should be available to humans on Earth, WHEN do you   
   think   
   >it should be or should have been made available? So far it appears VERY CLEAR   
   >that no one including YOU has any idea at all what you want people to think   
   you   
   >think you're trying to talk about.   
      
   I'm not the one defending the idea that a creator deity exists, you are.   
   You have some work to do.   
      
   >>>>that there is any evidence to suppose such  person   
   >>>>existing at all?   
   >>>   
   >>>    The fact that there are no animals in transition stages between   
   reptiles and   
   >>>birds today is evidence that something had deliberate influence on the way   
   >>>things evolved. The fact that there are very VERY few fossils of any such   
   >>>creatures is also evidence.   
   >>>   
   >>>>And what makes you Assume that if there is ay such person it is not she?   
   >>>   
   >>>    If God exists I don't believe he would be restricted to any particular   
   form   
   >>>or gender but refer to him as male out of convenience and because that's how   
   >>>we're encouraged to refer to him in most if not all canonical writings.   
      
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