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   On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:19:48 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:07:01 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 19:30:31 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:53:28 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On 11-January-2015 5:11 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:49:22 -0600, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>> ..   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:48:47 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 10:35:21 -0600, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:15:38 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:23:45 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 07:44:26 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>     No. If there is a designer then it's pretty obvious that he   
   made use of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> evolutionary method of developing life on this planet, even though   
   we can't jump   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in the "lab" with him and see exactly how he went about making it   
   take place.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> That's one of the basic starting lines atheists are unable to get   
   as "far" as.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Can you?   
   >>>>>>>>>> Show us your evidence that a designer did something. As far as I can   
   >>>>>>>>>> tell, your argument is that science is right, but that you want to   
   add a   
   >>>>>>>>>> designer that you have absolutely no evidence for, a designer that   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>> indistinguishable from nothing   
   >>>>>>>>>     Yet WE have no reason to believe the proof you demand should be   
   available to   
   >>>>>>>>> humans, much less do any of us have any idea what you're imaginig it   
   should be,   
   >>>>>>>>> or where it should be, or why it should be available to us, or when   
   it should   
   >>>>>>>>> have been or should be made available. Your supposed criticism means   
   NOTHING,   
   >>>>>>>>> and you can't even pretend it does mean anything as you consistently   
   prove every   
   >>>>>>>>> time you're challenged on it.   
   >>>>>>>> I never demand proof. I ask for evidence.   
   >>>>>>>     YOU ARE evidence.   
   >>>>>> You keep making that foolish claim. Repeating it ten thousand times will   
   >>>>>> not make it true.   
   >>>>>      Pointing out that I keep pointing it out won't make the fact stop   
   being   
   >>>>> true. Nothing will or can make it stop being true, in fact.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>his claim that it's untrue (whether it is or not) does not make it   
   >>>>untrue, just as his claim of 'no evidence' for God does not make any   
   >>>>evidence disappear!   
   >>>   
   >>>My claim is that your religious claims are all unsubstantiated.   
   >>   
   >>    Present the quotes.   
   >   
   >Are you now telling me that you reject all religious claims and are   
   >atheist?   
      
       Are you now telling me you accept all religious claims and are a theist?   
      
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