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   On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:12:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:29:33 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:50:45 +0100, "thomas p."  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>"mur" skrev i meddelelsen news:6qrqcals3qderjf3jg632rk94vphqehoh5@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:42:15 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>>On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   >>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>In article ,   
   >>>>>>> felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   >>>>>>>> exist   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has once   
   >>>>>>>believed in,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can also mean   
   >>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   >>>>>>possibly the   
   >>>>>>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   >>>>>>>never has believed in.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    To honestly have no belief requires considering the possibility that   
   >>>>>>something is correct as well as that it's not correct. You make it   
   >>>>>>clearly   
   >>>>>>obvious you can consider the possibility that God does not exist as being   
   >>>>>>correct. Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >>>>>>possibility   
   >>>>>>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   >>>>>>pretending   
   >>>>>>you honestly have no belief about it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>There are all sorts of things that I have not yet heard about, and   
   >>>>>doubtless will not hear about during my lifetime, about which I have no   
   >>>>>beliefs whatsoever, having had no opportunity to form any beliefs about   
   >>>>>them!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    The possibility of there being a God associated with this planet has   
   >>>> nothing   
   >>>> to do with what you just wussiley mentioned   
   >>>   
   >>>You did not limit your comment about belief to belief in a god,   
   >>   
   >>    "Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the possibility   
   >>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   pretending   
   >>you honestly have no belief about it."   
   >   
   >Babies start with no beliefs in any gods,   
   >and the lucky ones REMAIN uncorrupted!   
      
       If there is no God associated with this planet, which is a possibility I   
   take into consideration, then I agree with you even though you wussed away from   
   what I pointed out. But if there is a God associated with this planet, which is   
   another possibility I take into consideration, then I have no reason to agree   
   with you because you don't have any idea whether you're correct or whether   
   you're not. As yet I have no reason to put complete faith in either of the   
   above   
   mentioned possibilities being correct, much MUCH less do I have any reason to   
   put faith in your guess being correct.   
      
   >>>making his   
   >>>response quite relevant.   
   >>   
   >>    No...   
   >>   
   >>>>so what did you think you could gain   
   >>>> by such wussing, do you have any idea at all?   
   >>   
   >>...but what would you like people to think he could gaing by such wussing, do   
   >>you have any idea?   
      
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