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   On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:37:16 -0800, Jeanne Douglas    
   wrote:   
   .   
   >In article , mur wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:52:34 -0700, A Nony Mouse  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >> >In article <2o4ldah5qo072pcljugc8kseima7qoplib@4ax.com>, mur wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:46:56 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >> >>    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> .   
   >> >> >In article , mur wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 03:43:54 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >> >> >>    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> .   
   >> >> >> >In article <0qrqcalc1ofgv7gemh395qn40u3tofeiro@4ax.com>, mur wrote:   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:25:02 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >> >> >> >>    
   >> >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> .   
   >> >> >> >> >On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist   
   >> >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >>.   
   >> >> >> >> >>>In article ,   
   >> >> >> >> >>> felix_unger  wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   >> >> >> >> >>>> exist   
   >> >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has   
   once   
   >> >> >> >> >>>believed in,   
   >> >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>    To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can   
   >> >> >> >> >>    also   
   >> >> >> >> >>    mean   
   >> >> >> >> >>    to   
   >> >> >> >> >>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   >> >> >> >> >>possibly   
   >> >> >> >> >>the   
   >> >> >> >> >>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   >> >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   >> >> >> >> >>>never has believed in.   
   >> >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>To honestly have no belief requires considering the   
   >> >> >> >> >>possibility that something is correct as well as that it's   
   >> >> >> >> >>not correct. You make it clearly obvious you can consider the   
   >> >> >> >> >>possibility that God does not exist as being correct. Try to   
   >> >> >> >> >>present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >> >> >> >> >>possibility that God does exist as being correct, if you   
   >> >> >> >> >>really would like to try pretending you honestly have no   
   >> >> >> >> >>belief about it.   
   >> >> >> >> >   
   >> >   
   >> >A careful person will not reject the possibility of no gods existing on   
   >> >the basis of any evidence as yet presented, nor reject the reverse   
   >> >possibility on that evidence.   
   >> >   
   >> >Such careful persons are called agnostics.   
   >>   
   >>     There are people in these ngs who make it clear they believe there is no   
   >>     God   
   >> associated with Earth, and some that there are no gods anywhere in the   
   >> universe.   
   >> Some of them make it clear that they're ashamed of that belief.   
   >   
   >   
   >If they're ashamed of it, why are so they free with their opinions?   
      
       Try to explain what you want people to think you think you're trying to   
   talk   
   about with that muddle of bullshit.   
      
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