XPost: alt.atheism, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism
XPost: sci.skeptic
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:58:20 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:
.
>On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:42:07 -0500, mur wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:36:11 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>>wrote:
>>.
>>>In article , mur wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:22:40 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> wrote:
>>>> .
>>>> >In article <2o4ldah5qo072pcljugc8kseima7qoplib@4ax.com>, mur wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:46:56 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> >>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> .
>>>> >> >In article , mur wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 03:43:54 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> .
>>>> >> >> >In article <0qrqcalc1ofgv7gemh395qn40u3tofeiro@4ax.com>, mur wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:25:02 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> .
>>>> >> >> >> >On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >>.
>>>> >> >> >> >>>In article ,
>>>> >> >> >> >>> felix_unger wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not
>>>> >> >> >> >>>> exist
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has
once
>>>> >> >> >> >>>believed in,
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can
>>>> >> >> >> >> also
>>>> >> >> >> >> mean
>>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> >> >>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo,
and
>>>> >> >> >> >>possibly
>>>> >> >> >> >>the
>>>> >> >> >> >>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one
>>>> >> >> >> >>>never has believed in.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> To honestly have no belief requires considering the
>>>> >> >> >> >> possibility
>>>> >> >> >> >> that
>>>> >> >> >> >>something is correct as well as that it's not correct. You
make it
>>>> >> >> >> >>clearly
>>>> >> >> >> >>obvious you can consider the possibility that God does not
exist
>>>> >> >> >> >>as
>>>> >> >> >> >>being
>>>> >> >> >> >>correct. Try to present some evidence that you can also
consider
>>>> >> >> >> >>the
>>>> >> >> >> >>possibility
>>>> >> >> >> >>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like
to
>>>> >> >> >> >>try
>>>> >> >> >> >>pretending
>>>> >> >> >> >>you honestly have no belief about it.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Why?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Because unless you do it will remain clear that the only
belief
>>>> >> >> >> you're
>>>> >> >> >> capable of considering is the one but not any others. If you
want to
>>>> >> >> >> try
>>>> >> >> >> pretending you "have" no belief then you need to show that you
can
>>>> >> >> >> consider
>>>> >> >> >> more
>>>> >> >> >> than just the ONE we know you DO consider.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Care to translate that gibberish into English?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> You can't do what I challenged you to do as I suspected, so you
>>>> >> >> proved
>>>> >> >> me
>>>> >> >> correct. You've apparently served your purpose as well and clearly
as
>>>> >> >> you
>>>> >> >> are
>>>> >> >> able to.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Now you have 2 pieces of word salad to translate into English. When
can
>>>> >> >I expect your translation?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you can't figure out what I meant then you just can't comprehend
>>>> >> because
>>>> >> you're not mentally capable, and the concept will always remain beyond
>>>> >> your
>>>> >> mental ability regardless of how it's presented to you.
>>>> >
>>>> >And once again you deflect. Is there a reason you never answer a
>>>> >question you're asked or respond to requests?
>>>>
>>>> Oh okay, now you've made it clear that you want people to believe
you're
>>>> even MORE clueless than I pointed out for you above. Everything I wrote
is in
>>>> English. Would you care to explain why you dishonestly want people to
think
>>>> you're so stupid that you think it needed to be translated into the
language
>>>> it
>>>> was written in to begin with? Or are you going to continue to pretend you
>>>> honestly ARE as stupid as you portrayed yourself to be?
>>>
>>>And once again you haven't answer my questions.
>>
>> Try translating them into English instead of muddled shit.
>>
>>>Every time you do that
>>>you confirm to everybody else that you cannot answer.
>>
>> I did answer. You just don't happen to like the answers because they
focus
>>on your own stupidity. Not only are you stupid for asking such stupid
questions,
>>but you're only asking them because you're too stupid to be able to
comprehend
>>what I pointed out to begin with. That or you're ashamed of the fact I
pointed
>>out to begin with of course. But why you would respond to a fact you're
ashamed
>>of by acting like an incredibly stupid idiot is now in question. You can
never
>>answer that one, and might not even have any idea why you did it yourself, so
>>I'm forced to consider what seems the most likely reason you did it for
myself.
>>The most likely seeming reason is that you would like to oppose what I
pointed
>>out but you're either too stupid to really comprehend what it means as you're
>>acting like you are, or you do comprehend what it means and want to oppose it
>>but can't, so you made up something and then treid to oppose what you made
up.
>>Either way, what I pointed out to begin with will always remain true
regardless
>>of how you try to whine and cry around it.
>
>What fact am I ashamed of?
If you want to try pretending you "have" no belief then you need to show
that you can consider more than just the ONE possibility we know you DO
consider, which is that there's no God associated with this planet.
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