XPost: sac.politics, alt.atheism, alt.politics.homosexuality   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 22:50:43 -0500, mur wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:45:13 -0600, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   >.   
   >>mur wrote in news:5iafeah6t3his33euknmf31kdqkhokde4i@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:52:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman    
   >>> wrote: .   
   >>>>On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:49:17 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:41:18 -0600, Mitchell Holman    
   >>>>>wrote: .   
   >>>>>>mur wrote in news:dl4ldalk1uqlcf3qnh8f4e5hhp8n28a1ul@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:44:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>     Here's a fact for you: Atheists have nothing at all   
   >>>>>>>>>     constraining them in any   
   >>>>>>>>> way.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    Which means their morality is independent   
   >>>>>>>>of any system of divine rewards or punishments.   
   >>>>>>>>Sounds like a superior form to me.......   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>     How does lying that there's no evidence of God's existence   
   >>>>>>>     sound better to   
   >>>>>>> you than not lying about it and dealing with what evidence there   
   >>>>>>> is?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      What evidence is that?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    Life itself is evidence.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      Life is evidence of life.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Even IF humans eventually are able to produce life from lifeless   
   >>>     material   
   >>> life might STILL remain evidence of God's existence.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>    "Might"?   
   >>   
   >>    Your whole faith is based on what MIGHT be evidence?   
   >   
   >    I don't have faith that there's a God associated with Earth. I'm a weak   
   >agnostic so I consider the possibility that there is not, and also that there   
   >is. What I pointed out is still a fact though. Is there something you don't   
   like   
   >about it, and if so, how would you rather things be different?   
      
   Are you a weak agnostic theist or a weak agnostic atheist. Agnostic is   
   not some middle way.   
      
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