XPost: sac.politics, alt.atheism, alt.politics.homosexuality   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 28-February-2015 9:19 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   > On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 22:50:43 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:45:13 -0600, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >>> mur wrote in news:5iafeah6t3his33euknmf31kdqkhokde4i@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:52:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman    
   >>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:49:17 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:41:18 -0600, Mitchell Holman    
   >>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>> mur wrote in news:dl4ldalk1uqlcf3qnh8f4e5hhp8n28a1ul@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:44:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>      Here's a fact for you: Atheists have nothing at all   
   >>>>>>>>>>      constraining them in any   
   >>>>>>>>>> way.   
   >>>>>>>>>     Which means their morality is independent   
   >>>>>>>>> of any system of divine rewards or punishments.   
   >>>>>>>>> Sounds like a superior form to me.......   
   >>>>>>>>      How does lying that there's no evidence of God's existence   
   >>>>>>>>      sound better to   
   >>>>>>>> you than not lying about it and dealing with what evidence there   
   >>>>>>>> is?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>       What evidence is that?   
   >>>>>>     Life itself is evidence.   
   >>>>>       Life is evidence of life.   
   >>>>      Even IF humans eventually are able to produce life from lifeless   
   >>>>      material   
   >>>> life might STILL remain evidence of God's existence.   
   >>>   
   >>>     "Might"?   
   >>>   
   >>>     Your whole faith is based on what MIGHT be evidence?   
   >>     I don't have faith that there's a God associated with Earth. I'm a weak   
   >> agnostic so I consider the possibility that there is not, and also that   
   there   
   >> is. What I pointed out is still a fact though. Is there something you don't   
   like   
   >> about it, and if so, how would you rather things be different?   
   > Are you a weak agnostic theist or a weak agnostic atheist. Agnostic is   
   > not some middle way.   
      
   It is for all practical purposes.. Atheism --- Agnosticism --- Theism.   
   If you don't believe specifically that God does or doesn't exist, then   
   you call yourself agnostic.   
      
   --   
   rgds,   
      
   Pete   
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   Allen West   
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   Brigitte Gabriel's answer to 'peaceful' moslems.. http://tinyurl   
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   "No need for concern. Only 5-10% of muslims are extremists. In 1940 only 7% of   
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