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   Message 212,009 of 213,516   
   mur to Steve O   
   Re: What are crop circles evidence of?   
   12 Mar 15 17:11:55   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.flame.jesus.christ, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:11:12 +0000, Steve O  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 07/03/2015 01:37, Ralph wrote:   
   >> On 2/26/2015 10:58 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:04:13 +0000, Steve O  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>> If crop circles are supposed to be evidence of aliens trying to   
   >>>>>> communicate with us through wheat, then why are they communicating   
   >>>>>> so badly?   
   >   
   >>>>>       You can't think anything about it on your own?   
   >   
   >>>> Yes I can, it's just flattened wheat.   
   >>>> Nothing to do with aliens at all.   
   >>>> Get over it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Start with the most basic of   
   >>>>> basics. They are doing it, or they are not. If they're not then   
   >>>>> they're not, and   
   >>>>> that's the end of it. If they are then they are and they must have   
   >>>>> reason to,   
   >>>>> and that opens up a whole lot to consider.   
   >   
   >>>> No it doesn't.   
   >>>> Why the hell would an advanced civilization, who has somehow managed to   
   >>>> use their immense intelligence to cross vast interstellar distances,   
   >>>> decide to communicate with the indigenous population by putting cryptic   
   >>>> markings into cereal crops????   
   >>>> I mean, come on, it's a no -brainer, how much sillier can you get?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Try to think of some reason or more   
   >>>>> than one why they might do that on your own if you can. If you can't   
   >>>>> then say so   
   >>>>> and I'll tell you why I think they might.   
   >   
   >>>> There isn't any reason for them to do such a thing at all.   
   >>>> Now go ahead with your explanation.   
   >>>> I'm all ears.   
   >>>> (ears, wheat, gettit?)   
   >   
   >>> In general people are afraid of the idea of xts coming around,   
   >>> and have   
   >>> written many stories about them being our enemies.   
   >   
   >Seems reasonable.   
   >If they have the technology to get here then they will be much more   
   >advanced than us.   
   >History has shown that when superior civilizations meet lesser ones, the   
   >lesser ones usually come off worst.   
      
       There's another possibility you can't appreciate and your inability   
   supports   
   what I pointed out for you, and that of course is what I pointed out next.   
      
   >>> If they do come   
   >>> around and   
   >>> want to openly deal with humans at some point in the future, when   
   >>> we're ready,   
   >>> they might very well be doing things to get us used to the   
   >>> possibiliity of their   
   >>> existence without being too scary about it. Crop patterns would be one   
   >>> good way.   
   >   
   >It would be an extremely silly way, in my opinion.   
      
       If they did/do make such patterns it means they don't care about people who   
   have that opinion, which of course there's no reason why they should.   
      
   >How could we take any alien seriously when they are going around at   
   >night trampling wheat into amazingly cryptic messages?   
   >   
   >BTW, I'm not sure if you've mentioned how the aliens actually crush the   
   >wheat before have you?   
   >If not, what method do they use?   
   >Do the aliens use planks and rope like the hoaxers, or do they have some   
   >other method of trampling wheat?   
      
       My guess would be that they are able to use gravity not only to manipulate   
   matter on this planet, but also in space and on other planets as well.   
      
   >>> There are possibly others as well, but if you can't get this far with   
   >>> it there's   
   >>> no point trying to "discuss" any others with you.   
   >   
   >Well, if you tried presenting some reasonable evidence for your ideas,   
   >there might be a point.   
      
       You can't appreciate any reason why they would do it or any way they could   
   do it without using boards and rope. You can't really think about this topic at   
   all apparently.   
      
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