XPost: sac.politics, alt.atheism, alt.politics.homosexuality   
      
   On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:43:03 -0400, Bill Steele  wrote:   
      
   >On 3/12/15 5:59 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
   >> In article , mur <> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 23:10:48 -0800, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>> .   
   >>>> In article , mur wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:11:31 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> .   
   >>>>>> In article <6100d646e56f3a56945d8feb86f3cea3@dizum.com>,   
   >>>>>> "Carmine"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In article    
   >>>>>>> Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:gcqveahsh60t4eggnur0t96k60ocq57g9r@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:45:13 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:5iafeah6t3his33euknmf31kdqkhokde4i@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:52:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:49:17 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:41:18 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:dl4ldalk1uqlcf3qnh8f4e5hhp8n28a1ul@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:44:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Here's a fact for you: Atheists have nothing at all   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      constraining them in any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Which means their morality is independent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of any system of divine rewards or punishments.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a superior form to me.......   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      How does lying that there's no evidence of God's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      existence   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      sound better to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you than not lying about it and dealing with what evidence   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>       What evidence is that?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Life itself is evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>       Life is evidence of life.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>      Even IF humans eventually are able to produce life from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>      lifeless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>      material   
   >>>>>>>>>>> life might STILL remain evidence of God's existence.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     "Might"?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>     Your whole faith is based on what MIGHT be evidence?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>      I don't have faith that there's a God associated with Earth.   
   >>>>>>>>>      I'm a   
   >>>>>>>>>      weak   
   >>>>>>>>> agnostic so I consider the possibility that there is not, and also   
   >>>>>>>>> that there is. What I pointed out is still a fact though. Is there   
   >>>>>>>>> something you don't like about it, and if so, how would you rather   
   >>>>>>>>> things be different?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>       What you accept on faith is your business.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Then why are you atheists always sticking your nose up the arses   
   >>>>>>> of Christians?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> They invade our home newsgroup.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>      We challenge your claims and beliefs to see if there's anything of   
   >>>>>      value   
   >>>>>      to   
   >>>>> them. So far there doesn't appear to be, which we also point out for you   
   >>>>> but   
   >>>>> you   
   >>>>> can't appreciate that aspect of it. From there we consider why that might   
   >>>>> be...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> What do you think   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>      I seems somewhat significant that all of you people can't do any   
   >>>>>      better   
   >>>>>      than   
   >>>>> you're able to against a much smaller number.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> we shouldn't defend our home turf against invaders?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>      There's one particular challenge that has totally defeated every one   
   >>>>>      of   
   >>>>>      you   
   >>>>> for months now both as individuals and as a group. If any of you were   
   able   
   >>>>> to   
   >>>>> give a respectable answer to the challenge it would suggest that you   
   >>>>> people   
   >>>>> might have some idea what you think you're trying to talk about. But so   
   >>>>> far   
   >>>>> not   
   >>>>> one of you has been able to provide any respectable responce to it. Here   
   >>>>> it   
   >>>>> is   
   >>>>> again, in case any of you can finally provide one:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Try to explain WHAT type of evidence you think there should be, WHERE you   
   >>>>> think   
   >>>>> it should be, WHY you think it should be available to humans, and WHEN   
   you   
   >>>>> think   
   >>>>> it should have been or should be made available, if there truly is a God   
   >>>>> associated with this planet.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> We've answered your "challenge" every single time you've posed it.   
   >>>   
   >>>      That's a horribly blatant lie.   
   >>>   
   >>>> It's not our fault that you don't like our answer.   
   >>>   
   >>>      On the VERY FEW times anyone has made any attempt to answer it has   
   >>>      usually   
   >>> been that they think God should regrow limbs on amputees, which is   
   incredibly   
   >>> stupid   
   >>   
   >> Why do you hate amputees?   
   >>   
   >   
   >Perhaps because they show evidence that God does not watch over and   
   >protect all of us all the time.   
      
       Is that how you like to think you would spend every second of your time if   
   you were in God's position?   
      
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