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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:47:42 +0100 (CET), "Like A Good Neighbor"
wrote:
.
>In article
>mur <> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:43:03 -0400, Bill Steele wrote:
>>
>> >On 3/12/15 5:59 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> In article , mur <> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 23:10:48 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> .
>> >>>> In article , mur wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:11:31 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>>> In article <6100d646e56f3a56945d8feb86f3cea3@dizum.com>,
>> >>>>>> "Carmine" wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In article
>> >>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:gcqveahsh60t4eggnur0t96k60ocq57g9r@4ax.com:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:45:13 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>> >>>>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:5iafeah6t3his33euknmf31kdqkhokde4i@4ax.com:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:52:56 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:49:17 -0500, mur wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:41:18 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mur wrote in news:dl4ldalk1uqlcf3qnh8f4e5hhp8n28a1ul@4ax.com:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:44:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a fact for you: Atheists have nothing at all
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraining them in any
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which means their morality is independent
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of any system of divine rewards or punishments.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a superior form to me.......
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does lying that there's no evidence of God's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound better to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you than not lying about it and dealing with what evidence
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What evidence is that?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Life itself is evidence.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Life is evidence of life.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even IF humans eventually are able to produce life from
>> >>>>>>>>>>> lifeless
>> >>>>>>>>>>> material
>> >>>>>>>>>>> life might STILL remain evidence of God's existence.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> "Might"?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Your whole faith is based on what MIGHT be evidence?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I don't have faith that there's a God associated with Earth.
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm a
>> >>>>>>>>> weak
>> >>>>>>>>> agnostic so I consider the possibility that there is not, and also
>> >>>>>>>>> that there is. What I pointed out is still a fact though. Is there
>> >>>>>>>>> something you don't like about it, and if so, how would you rather
>> >>>>>>>>> things be different?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> What you accept on faith is your business.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Then why are you atheists always sticking your nose up the arses
>> >>>>>>> of Christians?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> They invade our home newsgroup.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We challenge your claims and beliefs to see if there's anything
of
>> >>>>> value
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> them. So far there doesn't appear to be, which we also point out for
you
>> >>>>> but
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> can't appreciate that aspect of it. From there we consider why that
might
>> >>>>> be...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> What do you think
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I seems somewhat significant that all of you people can't do any
>> >>>>> better
>> >>>>> than
>> >>>>> you're able to against a much smaller number.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> we shouldn't defend our home turf against invaders?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There's one particular challenge that has totally defeated every
one
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> for months now both as individuals and as a group. If any of you were
able
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> give a respectable answer to the challenge it would suggest that you
>> >>>>> people
>> >>>>> might have some idea what you think you're trying to talk about. But
so
>> >>>>> far
>> >>>>> not
>> >>>>> one of you has been able to provide any respectable responce to it.
Here
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> again, in case any of you can finally provide one:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Try to explain WHAT type of evidence you think there should be, WHERE
you
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>> it should be, WHY you think it should be available to humans, and
WHEN you
>> >>>>> think
>> >>>>> it should have been or should be made available, if there truly is a
God
>> >>>>> associated with this planet.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We've answered your "challenge" every single time you've posed it.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's a horribly blatant lie.
>> >>>
>> >>>> It's not our fault that you don't like our answer.
>> >>>
>> >>> On the VERY FEW times anyone has made any attempt to answer it has
>> >>> usually
>> >>> been that they think God should regrow limbs on amputees, which is
incredibly
>> >>> stupid
>> >>
>> >> Why do you hate amputees?
>> >>
>> >
>> >Perhaps because they show evidence that God does not watch over and
>> >protect all of us all the time.
>>
>> Is that how you like to think you would spend every second of your time
if
>> you were in God's position?
>
>If I was God, I'd have a fishhook up Steele's asshole, fishing
>for sharks and drinking beer.
So you're another example of only being able to "consider" the possibility
of God's existence in an extremely childlike and unrealistic way. That is
consistent with ALL atheists afawk, and it is WHY they ARE atheists.
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