XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 18-April-2015 6:54 AM, mur wrote:   
   > On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 18:27:00 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" wrote:   
   > ..   
   >> "David Johnston" wrote in message news:mg1it3$3fd$4@dont-email.me...   
   >>   
   >>> On 4/7/2015 3:04 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>> It means what I pointed out for you. Atheists demand evidence,   
   >>> I have not demanded any.   
   >> Atheists demand evidence before they will change their minds: None has been   
   >> offered.   
   > You're lying,   
      
   she certainly is.   
      
   > so there's that. You don't happen to like the evidence that   
   > has been offered, but for some reason you're ashamed to admit that. The   
   question   
   > of why you're ashamed of it comes immediately to mind, but you can't afford   
   to   
   > try to answer even IF you think you have some clue what the answer is. So   
   > there's all of that.   
   >   
   > Moving on with consideration of the position you're in: You don't like   
   the   
   > evidence you've been offered meaning you must think there "should be" more if   
   > God does exist. Yet you have no idea WHAT you think it should be, WHERE you   
   > think it should be, WHY you think God should provide it, or WHEN you think he   
   > should provide it or should have provided it. All that means you have no   
   reason   
   > to think whatever evidence you're demanding should be available to people to   
   > begin with, so it's idiotic of you to demand it at all.   
   >   
   > Moving on...not only is all of the above idiotic but it's even worse   
   than   
   > all that. If God does exist and wants things to be as they are, it's idiotic   
   to   
   > insist he should provide the sort of "evidence" you demand since it would   
   change   
   > things a LOT and things would no longer be as they are. Maybe at some points   
   in   
   > the past, and some points in the future, it was and will be of value to God   
   to   
   > provide mankind in general with what you demand. But apparently at this   
   point in   
   > time it's not, nor is it of value to him to provide you personally with it   
   > either.   
      
      
   --   
   rgds,   
      
   Pete   
   -------   
   "When tolerance becomes a one-way street it leads to cultural suicide" -Col.   
   Allen West   
   http://thereligionofpeace.com   
   https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/   
   http://pamelageller.com/   
   Brigitte Gabriel's answer to 'peaceful' moslems.. http://tinyurl   
   com/brigitteGab   
   "No need for concern. Only 5-10% of muslims are extremists. In 1940 only 7% of   
   Germans were Nazis. How did that turn out?"   
   "ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith"   
   -Barack Obama, idiotic President of the USA   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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