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   On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:55:08 -0600, David Johnston wrote:   
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   >On 4/17/2015 2:46 PM, mur wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:39:58 -0600, David Johnston wrote:   
   >> .   
   >>> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:03:53 -0400, mur wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:29:59 -0500, duke wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:02:20 -0400, mur. <> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:19:40 -0700, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:33:27 -0400, mur. <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:44 -0700, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>> David Johnston wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2015 5:11 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer the gigantic cow hypothesis.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> One absolute consistency is that you atheists can only   
   "consider" the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> possibility of God's existence in very childlike ways, but never   
   in any   
   >>>>>>>>>>> realistic ways.Of course that is significant since if you could   
   think of it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> any realistic way you wouldn't be restricted to an atheist way of   
   thinking,   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Your assumption that I am "restricted" to an atheist way of   
   thinking is   
   >>>>>>>>>> false.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What the fuck is "an atheist way of thinking"?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> LOL....you really can't figure out a damn thing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why didn't you answer my question?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Before reading your post I predicted it would be either some sort   
   of blatant   
   >>>>>> lie, or more of you revealing that you can't comprehend what's being   
   discussed.   
   >>>>>> We'll if you can deal with it after I point out some basics.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 1. Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god associated with   
   this planet   
   >>>>>> and may or may not be that there is no type of god associated with any   
   place(s)   
   >>>>>> in "the" universe, depending on the personal belief of the individual.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 2. Weak atheism is having no belief about whether or not there is any   
   god   
   >>>>>> associated with any place(s) in "the" universe, which would necessarily   
   involve   
   >>>>>> giving consideration to the possibility that there may be as well as   
   that there   
   >>>>>> is not if a person has been exposed to the idea.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Weak atheism is otherwise called agnosticism.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's more to it than that. Strong agnostics believe nobody can   
   know if   
   >>>> God exists. Weak agnostics believe it's possible that some people can   
   know if   
   >>>> God exists. I'm a weak agnostic.   
   >>>   
   >>> An agnostic is normally an atheist who doesn't care to argue the point.   
   >>> You are clearly an exception since you will argue the point endlessly.   
   >>   
   >> I'm an actual weak agnostic which necessarily involves considering the   
   >> possibility that there is a God associated with Earth, and other things all   
   of   
   >> which are beyond the consideration of some other people.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Hell I "consider" that.   
      
    Try providing evidence that you can by showing us how you can do it.   
      
   >But since I only consider it and don't believe   
   >it, I'm an atheist.   
      
    As yet there's no reason for anyone to believe you can consider it. Even if   
   you eventually are able to provide evidence that you can you could still be a   
   weak agnostic rather than the weak atheist you want people to believe you are.   
   When you never are able to provide any though, you will remain appearing to be   
   a   
   strong atheist who is ashamed of his own faith that there's no God associated   
   with this planet, or probably any other place(s) in the universe.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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