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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:06:37 +1000, felix_unger wrote:
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>On 18-April-2015 6:51 AM, mur wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 06:28:06 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:03:53 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:29:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>> .
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:02:20 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:19:40 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:33:27 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:44 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2015 5:11 PM, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer the gigantic cow hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>>>> One absolute consistency is that you atheists can only
"consider" the
>>>>>>>>>>> possibility of God's existence in very childlike ways, but never
in any
>>>>>>>>>>> realistic ways.Of course that is significant since if you could
think of it
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> any realistic way you wouldn't be restricted to an atheist way of
thinking,
>>>>>>>>>> Your assumption that I am "restricted" to an atheist way of
thinking is
>>>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What the fuck is "an atheist way of thinking"?
>>>>>>>> LOL....you really can't figure out a damn thing.
>>>>>>> Why didn't you answer my question?
>>>>>> Before reading your post I predicted it would be either some sort
of blatant
>>>>>> lie, or more of you revealing that you can't comprehend what's being
discussed.
>>>>>> We'll if you can deal with it after I point out some basics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god associated with
this planet
>>>>>> and may or may not be that there is no type of god associated with any
place(s)
>>>>>> in "the" universe, depending on the personal belief of the individual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Weak atheism is having no belief about whether or not there is any
god
>>>>>> associated with any place(s) in "the" universe, which would necessarily
involve
>>>>>> giving consideration to the possibility that there may be as well as
that there
>>>>>> is not if a person has been exposed to the idea.
>>>>> Weak atheism is otherwise called agnosticism.
>>>> There's more to it than that. Strong agnostics believe nobody can
know if
>>>> God exists. Weak agnostics believe it's possible that some people can
know if
>>>> God exists. I'm a weak agnostic.
>>> Too much hair splitting.
>> Why are you so overwhelmed by those easy distinctions, do you have any
idea?
>>
>>> Evidence exists for the presence of God - it can't be
>>> denied.
>> It is denied by blatant liars.
>>
>>> One may not like it, but none the less, it stares them in the face,
>>> hence:
>>>
>>> An atheist denies the presence of God refusing to see the evidence
>>>
>>> An agnostic sees the evidence but does not find it convincing.
>> To claim to have faith in God's existence when a person doesn't have it
>> seems worse than to be honest about it from my pov. To actually have reason
to
>> develop faith that God does exist is something God would have to provide
imo,
>> and to claim that without really having it would again be worse than being
>> honest about it, imo.
>>
>>> A theist accepts the presence of God by evidence and/or faith.
>> The faith is established by the evidence, which is another basic
starting
>> line atheists can't get as "far" as.
>
>poor old atheists, they just can't even make it there can they, lol!
Not a single one of them has been able to yet. What if any of them could?
Then could they be able to move on?
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