XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism
XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 04:42:27 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:
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>On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:51:49 -0400, mur wrote:
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>>On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 06:28:06 -0500, duke wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:03:53 -0400, mur wrote:
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>>>>On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:29:59 -0500, duke wrote:
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>>>>>On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:02:20 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
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>>>>>>On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:19:40 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:33:27 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:44 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2015 5:11 PM, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> I prefer the gigantic cow hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > One absolute consistency is that you atheists can only
"consider" the
>>>>>>>>>> > possibility of God's existence in very childlike ways, but never
in any
>>>>>>>>>> > realistic ways.Of course that is significant since if you could
think of it
>>>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>>>> > any realistic way you wouldn't be restricted to an atheist way of
thinking,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your assumption that I am "restricted" to an atheist way of
thinking is
>>>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What the fuck is "an atheist way of thinking"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL....you really can't figure out a damn thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why didn't you answer my question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before reading your post I predicted it would be either some sort of
blatant
>>>>>>lie, or more of you revealing that you can't comprehend what's being
discussed.
>>>>>>We'll if you can deal with it after I point out some basics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god associated with
this planet
>>>>>>and may or may not be that there is no type of god associated with any
place(s)
>>>>>>in "the" universe, depending on the personal belief of the individual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2. Weak atheism is having no belief about whether or not there is any god
>>>>>>associated with any place(s) in "the" universe, which would necessarily
involve
>>>>>>giving consideration to the possibility that there may be as well as
that there
>>>>>>is not if a person has been exposed to the idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>Weak atheism is otherwise called agnosticism.
>>>>
>>>> There's more to it than that. Strong agnostics believe nobody can know
if
>>>>God exists. Weak agnostics believe it's possible that some people can know
if
>>>>God exists. I'm a weak agnostic.
>>>
>>>Too much hair splitting.
>>
>> Why are you so overwhelmed by those easy distinctions, do you have any
idea?
>
>What did he say that led you to believe he was "overwhelmed"
"Too much hair splitting."
>>>Evidence exists for the presence of God - it can't be
>>>denied.
>>
>> It is denied by blatant liars.
>>
>>>One may not like it, but none the less, it stares them in the face,
>>>hence:
>>>
>>>An atheist denies the presence of God refusing to see the evidence
>>>
>>>An agnostic sees the evidence but does not find it convincing.
>>
>> To claim to have faith in God's existence when a person doesn't have it
>>seems worse than to be honest about it from my pov. To actually have reason
to
>>develop faith that God does exist is something God would have to provide imo,
>>and to claim that without really having it would again be worse than being
>>honest about it, imo.
>>
>>>A theist accepts the presence of God by evidence and/or faith.
>>
>> The faith is established by the evidence, which is another basic starting
>>line atheists can't get as "far" as.
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