XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
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   On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:28:47 -0600, A Nony Mouse  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:56:13 -0400, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:45:35 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On 4/7/2015 3:03 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 00:55:16 -0600, David Johnston    
   wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> On 3/31/2015 6:02 PM, mur. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:23:35 -0600, David Johnston    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:33:12 -0400, mur. <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:37:05 -0600, David Johnston    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2015 5:11 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not actually supporting your case there.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>       Yeah it does.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Your quotation is quite clear.  All sinned.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>        That's a very common belief. In fact I've never met anyone   
   who didn't   
   >>>>>>>>>> believe it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Thus we are all damned to hell   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>      Not necessarily. Do you have any clue why?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Because if Hell doesn't exist, we aren't damned to it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       And if it does?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Then we are all damned to it by default as I said before.  Assuming   
   >>>>> we're talking about the Christian Hell.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      You like to think everyone will be damned to hell if it exists,   
   >>>   
   >>>What I like to think is irrelevant.  This is Christian doctrine,   
   >>   
   >>    Try to support your claim that everyone will be damned to Hell.   
   >>   
   >>>like it or not.   
   >>>   
   >>>>without   
   >>>> exception regardless of what they do?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>I see that you do not understand what the words "by default" mean.   
   >>>Obviously Christians who manage to time their deaths well get to escape.   
   >>   
   >>    What makes you think so?   
   >   
   >For athiests, there is no essential difference between a bible or a   
   >koran or the supposedly holy books of other religions, except for the   
   >languages that they are written in..   
      
       For atheists there's no distinction between things we know are fiction, and   
   things no one could possibly know are fiction. That's another one of the basic   
   starting lines atheists can't get as "far" as.   
      
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