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On Fri, 08 May 2015 22:04:35 -0600, David Johnston wrote:
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>On Fri, 08 May 2015 22:03:17 -0400, mur wrote:
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>>On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:42:48 -0600, David Johnston wrote:
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>>>On 4/29/2015 5:57 PM, mur wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:55:08 -0600, David Johnston
wrote:
>>>> .
>>>>> On 4/17/2015 2:46 PM, mur wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:39:58 -0600, David Johnston
wrote:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:03:53 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:29:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:02:20 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:19:40 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:33:27 -0400, mur. <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:44 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
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>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Johnston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2015 5:11 PM, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I prefer the gigantic cow hypothesis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One absolute consistency is that you atheists can only
"consider" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility of God's existence in very childlike ways, but
never in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistic ways.Of course that is significant since if you
could think of it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any realistic way you wouldn't be restricted to an atheist way
of thinking,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your assumption that I am "restricted" to an atheist way of
thinking is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What the fuck is "an atheist way of thinking"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL....you really can't figure out a damn thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why didn't you answer my question?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before reading your post I predicted it would be either some
sort of blatant
>>>>>>>>>> lie, or more of you revealing that you can't comprehend what's
being discussed.
>>>>>>>>>> We'll if you can deal with it after I point out some basics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Strong atheism is the belief that there is no god associated
with this planet
>>>>>>>>>> and may or may not be that there is no type of god associated with
any place(s)
>>>>>>>>>> in "the" universe, depending on the personal belief of the
individual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Weak atheism is having no belief about whether or not there is
any god
>>>>>>>>>> associated with any place(s) in "the" universe, which would
necessarily involve
>>>>>>>>>> giving consideration to the possibility that there may be as well
as that there
>>>>>>>>>> is not if a person has been exposed to the idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Weak atheism is otherwise called agnosticism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's more to it than that. Strong agnostics believe nobody
can know if
>>>>>>>> God exists. Weak agnostics believe it's possible that some people can
know if
>>>>>>>> God exists. I'm a weak agnostic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An agnostic is normally an atheist who doesn't care to argue the point.
>>>>>>> You are clearly an exception since you will argue the point endlessly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an actual weak agnostic which necessarily involves
considering the
>>>>>> possibility that there is a God associated with Earth, and other things
all of
>>>>>> which are beyond the consideration of some other people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hell I "consider" that.
>>>>
>>>> Try providing evidence that you can by showing us how you can do it.
>>>
>>>I did that when I started discussing original sin and Hell. Note that
>>>the word "consider" does not mean "fail to decide".
>>
>> If you decide there is no God associated with Earth it means you could
NOT
>>realistically consider how there could be. Even an atheist SHOULD be able to
>>comprehend that much.
>
>Actually I'm capable of hypothetical reasoning.
You apparently like to believe that thinking there is NOT a God associated
with Earth is the same thing as considering how there might be. It brings to
question what other things you like to fool yourself about, and WHY???
>>>>> But since I only consider it and don't believe
>>>>> it, I'm an atheist.
>>>>
>>>> As yet there's no reason for anyone to believe you can consider it.
Even if
>>>> you eventually are able to provide evidence that you can you could still
be a
>>>> weak agnostic rather than the weak atheist you want people to believe you
are.
>>>
>>>That doesn't make any sense. Everyone is a "weak agnostic" if they are
>>>sane. Everyone is aware that they could be wrong. That's why I don't
>>>call myself "agnostic". The word's meaningless in itself.
>>
>> No it's not. You just can't comprehend what the meaning is. Are you able
to
>>find out and learn what it means on your own, or do you need someone to
explain
>>it for you?
>
>So you claim.
Being agnostic involves having a belief regarding whether or not anyone
could know God does exist. A strong agnostic believes no one could know. A weak
agnostic believes it's possible for some people to know it if he does. No one
could possibly know if there is no God, even though some people believe they
found out somehow:
"I know that gods are merely a figment of your deluded imagination" - Smiler
"I found out that your supposed god character is a lie." - Smiler
"yes I do know that there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu
"If a person can not say with 100% clarity
that they know that there is no god that there will never be a god and
there has never been a god, then that person is NOT an atheist." - bilgat@m.nu
"Just as You know that superman does not exist I can
tell you with the same assuredness that god does not exist" - bilgat@m.nu
"I have admitted numerous times that I *KNOW* there is not god. On this planet
or any others for that matter." - bilgat@m.nu
"I myself as an anti theist in fact {know} there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu
"Atheists know that there is no god except the one that has formed out of
delusion that only lives inside your head." - bilgat@m.nu
"yes I do know that god is not and never was and never will be
anything other than a figment from those whom are less educated and/or
much more stupid" - bilgat@m.nu
"There is no god." - Malte Runz
"I showed an example of evidence that proves god does not exist." - Malte Runz
"all gods are human inventions" - Free Lunch
"The gods of the theists who bother us here don't exist, even in non-god form."
- Free Lunch
"I showed an example of evidence that proves god does not exist." -
"Wizard-Of-Oz"
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