XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
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   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 6/4/2015 10:37 PM, R. Dean wrote:   
   > On 5/23/2015 9:56 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >> mur wrote in news:oqkulahndeb52016sog6b8dffeg37ae7jh@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Fri, 08 May 2015 22:03:14 -0600, David Johnston    
   >>> wrote: .   
   >>>> On 5/8/2015 8:03 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:11:05 -0700, Jeanne Douglas   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> .   
   >>>>>> In article , mur wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:45:06 -0500, duke    
   >>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:58:32 -0600, David Johnston   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 4/18/2015 7:24 AM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:07:02 -0600, David Johnston   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2015 2:14 PM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:32:02 -0600, David Johnston   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/9/2015 5:28 AM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too much hair splitting.  Evidence exists for the presence   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of God - it can't be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied.  One may not like it, but none the less, it stares   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in the face,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> An atheist denies   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I see that you regard consistency as too much trouble to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> bother with.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You see wrong.  I'm highly consistent.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Either it can't be denied, or atheists deny it.  Pick one.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The item that nails the supposed atheist is that he rejects   
   >>>>>>>>>> evidence we see.   
   >>>>>>>>> Yeah.  I've seen a bible too.  But Harry Potter was a more fun   
   >>>>>>>>> read.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But not any truth at all.  Unless you think you can ride a broom   
   >>>>>>>> stick.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>       These people can't distinguish between things we know are   
   >>>>>>>       fiction and things   
   >>>>>>> no one could know are fiction.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Let's have examples of "things no one could know are fiction". 3-5   
   >>>>>> examples would be a good start.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>       Any of the miracles Jesus was said to have performed, including   
   >>>>>       rising from   
   >>>>> the dead, etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What evidence do we see of that?   
   >>>   
   >>>      Other than what we have, what else do you like to think there   
   >>>      should be, or   
   >>> even could be?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>       Evasion noted.   
   >>   
   >>       If you believe there is verifiable evidence   
   >> for this deity then post it.   
   >>   
   > There is no empirical or verifiable evidence of the existence of a   
   > deity, however there _is_ the _appearance_ of design in nature and   
   > the universe.   
      
   Really, really, sloppy design...   
      
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