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From: David@block.net
On 6/5/2015 9:15 AM, R. Dean wrote:
> On 6/5/2015 9:03 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "R. Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com> wrote in news:zI9cx.292955$an3.186732
>> @fx23.fr7:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2015 9:56 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> mur wrote in news:oqkulahndeb52016sog6b8dffeg37ae7jh@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 08 May 2015 22:03:14 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>> On 5/8/2015 8:03 PM, mur wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:11:05 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> In article , mur
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:45:06 -0500, duke
>>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:58:32 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/18/2015 7:24 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:07:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2015 2:14 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:32:02 -0600, David Johnston
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/9/2015 5:28 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too much hair splitting. Evidence exists for the presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of God - it can't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied. One may not like it, but none the less, it stares
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in the face,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An atheist denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see that you regard consistency as too much trouble to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bother with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You see wrong. I'm highly consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Either it can't be denied, or atheists deny it. Pick one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The item that nails the supposed atheist is that he rejects
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence we see.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah. I've seen a bible too. But Harry Potter was a more fun
>>>>>>>>>>> read.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But not any truth at all. Unless you think you can ride a broom
>>>>>>>>>> stick.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These people can't distinguish between things we know are
>>>>>>>>> fiction and things
>>>>>>>>> no one could know are fiction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's have examples of "things no one could know are fiction". 3-5
>>>>>>>> examples would be a good start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any of the miracles Jesus was said to have performed,
>> including
>>>>>>> rising from
>>>>>>> the dead, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What evidence do we see of that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Other than what we have, what else do you like to think there
>>>>> should be, or
>>>>> even could be?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Evasion noted.
>>>>
>>>> If you believe there is verifiable evidence
>>>> for this deity then post it.
>>>>
>>> There is no empirical or verifiable evidence of the existence of a
>>> deity,
>>
>>
>> Then why do you believe it?
>>
>>
>>> however there _is_ the _appearance_ of design in nature and
>>> the universe.
>>
>>
>> Every constellation is the "appearance of
>> design" but in fact is just human perception at
>> work. Nothing "designed" about it.
>>
> This is a non sequitur, since no one has claimed the
> constellations have the appearance of design:
That is not of course true. I can cite plenty of mythology about how
the constellations were placed by the gods in the sky to honor this or
that person or thing.
nor do
> the constellations appear designed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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