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   mur to David Johnston   
   Re: In the atheist bible, is homosexuali   
   05 Jun 15 16:22:24   
   
   XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality   
      
   On Fri, 29 May 2015 21:08:56 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Fri, 22 May 2015 12:03:38 -0400, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 08 May 2015 22:03:14 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On 5/8/2015 8:03 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:11:05 -0700, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> In article , mur wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:45:06 -0500, duke  wrote:   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:58:32 -0600, David Johnston    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 4/18/2015 7:24 AM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:07:02 -0600, David Johnston    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2015 2:14 PM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:32:02 -0600, David Johnston <   
   avid@block.net>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/9/2015 5:28 AM, duke wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Too much hair splitting.  Evidence exists for the presence of   
   God -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it can't be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> denied.  One may not like it, but none the less, it stares them   
   in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the face,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> An atheist denies   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I see that you regard consistency as too much trouble to bother   
   with.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You see wrong.  I'm highly consistent.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Either it can't be denied, or atheists deny it.  Pick one.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The item that nails the supposed atheist is that he rejects evidence   
   we   
   >>>>>>>>> see.   
   >>>>>>>> Yeah.  I've seen a bible too.  But Harry Potter was a more fun read.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But not any truth at all.  Unless you think you can ride a broom stick.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      These people can't distinguish between things we know are fiction   
   and   
   >>>>>>      things   
   >>>>>> no one could know are fiction.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Let's have examples of "things no one could know are fiction". 3-5   
   >>>>> examples would be a good start.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      Any of the miracles Jesus was said to have performed, including   
   rising from   
   >>>> the dead, etc.   
   >>>   
   >>>What evidence do we see of that?   
   >>   
   >>    Other than what we have, what else do you like to think there should be,   
   or   
   >>even could be? So far no one has been able to make any respectable attempt to   
   >>answer that question, meaning that those who demand it not only have no   
   reason   
   >>to believe any should be available, but they can't even imagine what it could   
   >>possibly be, or where, or why it should be available. Jeanne Douglas is a   
   great   
   >>example in a bunch of clueless individuals. She's convinced that if God   
   exists   
   >>there should be some sort of verifiable evidence of it. She has no idea what   
   it   
   >>should be, where it should be, why it should be available, or when she thinks   
   >>God should or should have made it available, but still she thinks it should   
   be   
   >>available if God exists. She did make one extremely naive and completely   
   >>unrespectable claim that God should re-grow limbs on amputees immediately   
   >>whenever they ask him to if he exists, but that's the "best" she could come   
   up   
   >>with. It's also the "best" these people as a group could come up with, and   
   their   
   >>"best" can't be considered a respectable explanation at all. None of them   
   have   
   >>the slightest clue what they think they're trying to talk about when they   
   demand   
   >>evidence.   
   >   
   >Given that he allegedly resurrected the daughter of a "ruler"   
      
       Where?   
      
   >I'd expect   
   >documentation of an event of such political importance from the time   
   >period in question from multiple sources.  Then there were the several   
   >occasions where he supposed miraculously fed thousands of people at a   
   >time.   
      
       Where do you think this documentation should be and how do you think it   
   should have been preserved all these years?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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