XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
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   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 6/5/2015 2:22 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>     If you decide there is no God associated with Earth it means you   
   could NOT   
   >>>>> realistically consider how there could be. Even an atheist SHOULD be   
   able to   
   >>>>> comprehend that much.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually I'm capable of hypothetical reasoning.   
   >>>   
   >>>     You apparently like to believe that thinking there is NOT a God   
   associated   
   >>> with Earth is the same thing as considering how there might be.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong.  The two things are merely not incompatible.   
   >   
   >      They sure are. Why do you like to think otherwise, do you have any idea   
   > about that?   
      
   "Consider" does not mean "believe".   
      
   >>>>>>>> But since I only consider it and don't believe   
   >>>>>>>> it, I'm an atheist.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>       As yet there's no reason for anyone to believe you can consider   
   it. Even if   
   >>>>>>> you eventually are able to provide evidence that you can you could   
   still be a   
   >>>>>>> weak agnostic rather than the weak atheist you want people to believe   
   you are.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That doesn't make any sense.  Everyone is a "weak agnostic" if they are   
   >>>>>> sane.  Everyone is aware that they could be wrong.  That's why I don't   
   >>>>>> call myself "agnostic".  The word's meaningless in itself.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     No it's not. You just can't comprehend what the meaning is. Are you   
   able to   
   >>>>> find out and learn what it means on your own, or do you need someone to   
   explain   
   >>>>> it for you?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So you claim.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Being agnostic involves having a belief regarding whether or not anyone   
   >>> could know God does exist. A strong agnostic believes no one could know. A   
   weak   
   >>> agnostic believes it's possible for some people to know it if he does.   
   >>   
   >> And how would that be possible?  How is it possible to know anything?   
   >   
   >      It would be possible to know that as much as it's possible to know   
   anything   
   > else exists.   
      
   What does the word "know" mean to you?   
      
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