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   On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 01:01:46 -0600, David Johnston  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 6/5/2015 2:22 PM, mur wrote:   
   >>>>>>     If you decide there is no God associated with Earth it means you   
   could NOT   
   >>>>>> realistically consider how there could be. Even an atheist SHOULD be   
   able to   
   >>>>>> comprehend that much.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Actually I'm capable of hypothetical reasoning.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     You apparently like to believe that thinking there is NOT a God   
   associated   
   >>>> with Earth is the same thing as considering how there might be.   
   >>>   
   >>> Wrong.  The two things are merely not incompatible.   
   >>   
   >>      They sure are. Why do you like to think otherwise, do you have any idea   
   >> about that?   
   >   
   >"Consider" does not mean "believe".   
      
       If you want to pretend you can consider how there could be then try doing   
   it   
   and we'll see if you can or not.   
      
   >>>>>>>>> But since I only consider it and don't believe   
   >>>>>>>>> it, I'm an atheist.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>       As yet there's no reason for anyone to believe you can consider   
   it. Even if   
   >>>>>>>> you eventually are able to provide evidence that you can you could   
   still be a   
   >>>>>>>> weak agnostic rather than the weak atheist you want people to believe   
   you are.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That doesn't make any sense.  Everyone is a "weak agnostic" if they are   
   >>>>>>> sane.  Everyone is aware that they could be wrong.  That's why I don't   
   >>>>>>> call myself "agnostic".  The word's meaningless in itself.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>     No it's not. You just can't comprehend what the meaning is. Are you   
   able to   
   >>>>>> find out and learn what it means on your own, or do you need someone to   
   explain   
   >>>>>> it for you?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So you claim.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Being agnostic involves having a belief regarding whether or not   
   anyone   
   >>>> could know God does exist. A strong agnostic believes no one could know.   
   A weak   
   >>>> agnostic believes it's possible for some people to know it if he does.   
   >>>   
   >>> And how would that be possible?  How is it possible to know anything?   
   >>   
   >>      It would be possible to know that as much as it's possible to know   
   anything   
   >> else exists.   
   >   
   >What does the word "know" mean to you?   
      
        We can't "really" know anything which is why I put it that way.   
      
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