XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexu, ality   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:41:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
      
   > In article , niunian    
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   >> On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:38:31 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
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   >> > In article , niunian    
   >> > wrote:   
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   >> >> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:26:31 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:   
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   >> >> > In article , niunian   
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   >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:44:36 -0400, M.I.Wakefield wrote:   
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   >> >> >> > "niunian"  wrote in message news:mligf8$m9j$4@dont-email.me...   
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   >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:16:35 -0400, M.I.Wakefield wrote:   
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   >> >> >> >> > Not at all; I'm trying to lead you to enlightenment by   
   >> >> >> >> > forcing you to recognize your delusions.   
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   >> >> >> >> In other word, a noble sacrifice based on personal ignorance,   
   >> >> >> >> no doubt.   
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   >> >> >> > No sacrifice at all.  But you can't help those who won't let go   
   >> >> >> > of their delusions.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Which is exactly the problem you and other atheists are having.   
   >> >> >> You are deluded by the physical science and the physical world   
   >> >> >> that science pretends to study.   
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   >> >> > How can we be "deluded" by facts?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Because you have blind faith in the ability of science.   
   >> >   
   >> > No, I don't. What an incredibly stupid thing to say.   
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   >> Very well. I'm glad to hear that. I guess now you are ready to accept   
   >> the fact that physical science can not explain life and intelligence   
   >> which happen to be spiritual in nature. Right?   
   >   
   > Of course not.   
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   > Where's your evidence that anything "spiritual" exists?   
      
   Actually, they are everywhere right around you. Your intelligence, your   
   consciousness, and your happiness are all spiritual. You just don't pay   
   any real attention to them because you have never had any practice to   
   enquire into the nature of the human mind. Try to meditate on that, a   
   door might open and you may enter a new world.   
      
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