XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexu, ality   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On 2015-06-15 04:58 PM, David Johnston wrote:   
   > On 6/15/2015 1:56 PM, niunian wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> No. Life is only biological in appearance. Consciousness as the sign of   
   >>>> life is spiritual in nature.   
   >>>   
   >>> I do not believe that plants are conscious.   
   >>   
   >> A mere different level of consciousness. Nevertheless, it's still   
   >> consciousness.   
   >   
   > Your assertion is noted.   
      
   I believe there are different levels of consciousness. There is human   
   consciousness which is self-aware. There is animal consciousness which   
   is not self-aware but has self-instinct. And there is plant   
   consciousness which is not self-aware and has no self-instinct either.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> It can not be detected by physical science.   
   >>>   
   >>> Physical science can definitely detect differences between a conscious   
   >>> and an unconscious person.   
   >>   
   >> I don't think so. Being able to monitor the bodily function is not the   
   >> same as detecting consciousness. Reproducing the bodily function   
   >> certainly does not always bring back consciousness either.   
   >   
   > How does one reproduce conscious brain activity?   
      
   I'm not sure. I don't think there is a way to reproduce conscious brain   
   activity without consciousness being present in the first place.   
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> To claim otherwise is to believe in ghost hunting.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> What's the problem with ghost hunting?   
   >>   
   >> It's defined by the scientists themselves as pseudo-science.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Only because they've done it long enough that they are satisfied that   
   > there is no there, there.   
      
   That's so sad to hear. If that is what happened, then the scientists are   
   even more clueless about the spiritual existence than I have imagined.   
      
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