XPost: sac.politics, can.politics, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexu, ality   
   From: David@block.net   
      
   On 6/15/2015 8:41 PM, niunian wrote:   
   > On 2015-06-15 04:58 PM, David Johnston wrote:   
   >> On 6/15/2015 1:56 PM, niunian wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>> No. Life is only biological in appearance. Consciousness as the   
   >>>>> sign of   
   >>>>> life is spiritual in nature.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I do not believe that plants are conscious.   
   >>>   
   >>> A mere different level of consciousness. Nevertheless, it's still   
   >>> consciousness.   
   >>   
   >> Your assertion is noted.   
   >   
   > I believe there are different levels of consciousness. There is human   
   > consciousness which is self-aware. There is animal consciousness which   
   > is not self-aware but has self-instinct. And there is plant   
   > consciousness which is not self-aware and has no self-instinct either.   
      
   You are certainly free to believe anything you want.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> It can not be detected by physical science.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Physical science can definitely detect differences between a conscious   
   >>>> and an unconscious person.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't think so. Being able to monitor the bodily function is not the   
   >>> same as detecting consciousness. Reproducing the bodily function   
   >>> certainly does not always bring back consciousness either.   
   >>   
   >> How does one reproduce conscious brain activity?   
   >   
   > I'm not sure. I don't think there is a way to reproduce conscious brain   
   > activity without consciousness being present in the first place.   
      
   I agree.  Of course that's because I think that conscious brain activity   
   is consciousness.   
      
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